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Simon Singh'/><category term='science'/><category term='jew'/><category term='MRSA'/><category term='Gimpy'/><category term='Chief Scientific Adviser'/><category term='ofquack'/><category term='Malaria'/><category term='glucosamine'/><category term='conspiracy'/><category term='First Theory'/><category term='Daily Mail'/><category term='honey'/><category term='Guardian'/><category term='lourdes'/><category term='qur&apos;an'/><category term='Nutrition'/><category term='Barbara Wren'/><category term='homeopath'/><category term='Trading Standards'/><category term='Simon Singh'/><category term='Burzynski'/><category term='evcheck'/><category term='qed'/><category term='bogus'/><category term='Jeni Barnett'/><category term='religion'/><category term='Barbara Nash'/><category term='psychics'/><category term='ANH'/><category term='Christian Farthing'/><category term='medicine'/><title type='text'>Thinking Is Dangerous</title><subtitle type='html'>Wait, wait, wait. Now stop. Think about what you've been told. Now. Does it sound reasonable?</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>144</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-4066984698668552842</id><published>2011-12-04T09:30:00.001Z</published><updated>2011-12-04T11:19:02.690Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rhys Morgan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='libel reform'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Andy Lewis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Burzynski'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='quackometer'/><title type='text'>What would you do if you were a celebrity Burzynski supporter?</title><content type='html'>Firstly, a quick redux.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislaw_Burzynski"&gt;Stanislaw Burzynski&lt;/a&gt; runs a &lt;a href="http://www.burzynskiclinic.com/" target="_blank"&gt;clinic in the US&lt;/a&gt; which claims to be able to cure people of cancer. The treatment costs tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars although any evidence that the treatment has even the slightest effect is &lt;a href="http://boingboing.net/2011/11/30/review-of-burzynski-clinics.html" target="_blank"&gt;extremely hard to find&lt;/a&gt; .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I first heard about this story via a very moving and brave blogpost on &lt;a href="http://www.thetwentyfirstfloor.com/?p=2375" target="_blank"&gt;The 21st Floor&lt;/a&gt; about the &lt;a href="http://www.hopeforlaurafund.co.uk/" target="_blank"&gt;Hope For Laura&lt;/a&gt; campaign. This story follows a similar heartbreaking narrative to others, where someone has been diagnosed with some form of cancer at a horrifically young age, and a groundswell of goodwill and love erupts from those close to them desperate to help in whatever way they can. Places like the Burzynski Clinic can offer the miniscular glimmer of hope that they need to concentrate their efforts towards a goal. Other stories such as &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/theobserver/2011/nov/20/a-family-gripped-by-cancer" target="_blank"&gt;Billie Bainbridge&lt;/a&gt; have also been in the media in recent weeks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Depending on the situation, a celebrity may end up promoting the cause - the campaign can be given a huge boost by celebrity endorsement and in my view, this is one of the most important roles that celebrities can play in return for their exulted status. &lt;a href="http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/districtnews/districtatog/9374103.Peter_Kay___s_extra_dates_for_cancer_girl/" target="_blank"&gt;Peter Kay&lt;/a&gt; put on extra gigs recently for Billie and also an &lt;a href="http://www.thisisexeter.co.uk/Billie-fund-rises-target/story-13544543-detail/story.html" target="_blank"&gt;EBay auction&lt;/a&gt; in aid of Billie included a guitar donated by Radiohead. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[For the full ongoing story of libel threats &amp;amp; the complete lack of evidence for what looks and sounds like quackery, &lt;a href="http://josephinejones.wordpress.com/2011/11/29/burzynski-blogs-my-master-list/" target="_blank"&gt;Josephine Jones&lt;/a&gt; has a comprehensive list of blogs covering the story from many angles. A few key ones that I'd recommend are from Andy Lewis: &lt;a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2011/11/the-false-hope-of-the-burzynski-clinic.html" target="_blank"&gt;The False Hope&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2011/11/the-burzynski-clinic-threatens-my-family.html" target="_blank"&gt;The Burzynski Clinic Threathens my Family&lt;/a&gt;, and also &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/search?q=morgan" target="_blank"&gt;TiD buddy&lt;/a&gt; Rhys Morgan's &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/nov/30/burzynski-clinic-cancer-libel-laws" target="_blank"&gt;Guardian Comment is Free piece&lt;/a&gt;.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you haven't come across this story yet, you can probably very quickly see the pitfalls - huge, disastrous and painful pitfalls that belie anyone not carefully appreciating the different situations that each person is in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's pretty clear to me from the complete lack of evidence, the aggresive libel threats, the fact it's not available on the NHS, the fact that &lt;a href="http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2011/11/25/hope-or-false-hope/" target="_blank"&gt;Cancer Research UK say&lt;/a&gt; there is little solid evidence, the fact Burzynski also &lt;a href="http://www.aminocare.com/" target="_blank"&gt;sells his own range &lt;/a&gt;of vitamin pills etc etc etc that this is not a treatment worth pursuing, and some of the blogposts above have discussed the thorny issue of whether false hope is better than no hope.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My own thoughts on this story come from a conversation with Mrs Dr*T about celebrity endorsement. (There are many other angles of morality and pyschology which are dealt with elsewhere). As I said above, this is a really positive thing that celebs can do (they get repaid in terms of goodwill, which will translate into sales of tickets or merch, but that's an acceptable agreement, I feel. It's an interesting point whether raising lots of money for an individual rather than a group or disease is the most efficient way to progress). Most of them are not trained scientists, and it takes a fairly disciplined sort of person to not immediately do what they can to help a dying child, but first putting in some research time to reach a rational decision.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To try and avoid the personalisation, let's imagine that a well-known celebrity with plenty of media purchase is asked to do a benefit gig/stunt/interview/whatever in aid of a person with cancer who wants to try and get enough money to go to the Burzynski Clinic. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After agreeing to do it, a fairly high profile story gets aired about how the clinic does not have robust evidence for its practices, and there are concerns that it is nothing more than expensive snake oil. (Stephen Fry, Ben Goldacre, Graham Linehan and many many others have been tweeting about this over the last few days).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The celebrity is made aware of this directly by tweets and conversations, which leads her to think about the benefit gig/stunt/interview/whatever that she did in aid of the patient.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the tweetstorm is right, this is a pretty grim situation. She has an immediate choice - blank out the criticism, stick to the story. Bury her head in the sand. This is the one I think will be most common with the celebs. I should add that there's room in there for a lack of understanding on behalf of the celeb. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's say she doesn't blank out the criticism and does understand, but either does some research and takes some advice and feels she's done something that will do no good except fill someone's pockets with cash at the expense of painful goodwill. The ethics get altogether more fudgy. Our conversation led to the following options:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Don't give the money to the patient, give it to Cancer Research UK (e.g.) instead. Explain to family why. Risk massive backlash from media by not keeping promise to dying cancer patient.&lt;br /&gt;2. Do give money to patient. Explain to family about the clinic and that if she'd known then what she knows now she wouldn't have done the event. Suggests spending the Cancer Research UK or improved quality of remaining life. Family still have choice and I reckon would probably still spend the money at the clinic.&lt;br /&gt;3. Do give money to patient but on the proviso that it doesn't go to the Burzynski Clinic. Explain to family about the clinic and that if she'd known then what she knows now she wouldn't have done the event. Suggests spending the Cancer Research UK or improved quality of remaining life. Risk mediastorm about broken promises and attaching strings, not to mention legality.&lt;br /&gt;4. Give the money to the patient and say nothing but make sure not to get caught again in the future. Everyone is happy apart from the celeb who knows that they have actively helped in funding something they feel is extremely dubious. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mrs Dr*T and I settled on (2) after flirting around a bit with (4). Neither are satisfactory in entirety, because in both cases the money will most likely go to the clinic. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm interested in other options we haven't thought of - feel free to add them below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;T&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-4066984698668552842?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/4066984698668552842/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/12/what-would-you-do-if-you-were-celebrity.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/4066984698668552842'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/4066984698668552842'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/12/what-would-you-do-if-you-were-celebrity.html' title='What would you do if you were a celebrity Burzynski supporter?'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-6561102749014043679</id><published>2011-11-16T18:50:00.015Z</published><updated>2011-11-22T08:39:19.305Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='TBIJ'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ideal Spine Centre'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bureau of investigative journalism'/><title type='text'>Bureau of Investigative Journalism - New ideas, old habits?</title><content type='html'>This post is a venture away from the usual (and more recently intermittent) blogposts about dodgy quacks, silly products and efforts by deluded people who like to think the laws of physics, chemistry and biology are merely 'guidelines'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On this blogpost, I'll mainly be behaving badly and stamping my feet with childish impetulence. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It appears (note: appears) that the &lt;a href="http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/"&gt;Bureau of Investigative Journalism&lt;/a&gt; (TBIJ) have done some excellent investigative journalism (for that is their name) and released &lt;a href="http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2011/11/14/struck-off-chiropractor-still-working-as-spine-specialist/"&gt;this story&lt;/a&gt; about the Ideal Spine Centre in Canterbury. From another angle it appears (note again: appears) that the Bureau of Investigative Journalism have gone onto Google, found my blogpost written in 2008 about the very same Ideal Spine Centre and &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/04/get-ideal-spine-have-quack-crack-your.html"&gt;used one of my blogposts&lt;/a&gt; as fill out for a story about a Thinking Is Dangerous quack favourite. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is my thought that the first opinion is possible, but (as I'll try and show later) very doubtful, whereas the second is very reasonable. Very reasonable indeed. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some backstory - firstly, the TBIJ's history and raison d'etre can be found &lt;a href="http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/who/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. [That's a link to information on their website - you can almost smell the irony]. Secondly, the story itself is a bit of a corker and the overarching good out of the whole thing is that the suspicious goings on at The Ideal Spine Centre in Canterbury are being exposed to a wider audience.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For instance, Dr Farthing, or to give him his full medical title, Mr Farthing, has a disclaimer on his website &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"Dr. Farthing is not a Chiropractor, Osteopath or Medical Doctor"&lt;/blockquote&gt;. No, no. He is a 'wellness' Doctor. Welcome to Quack Comedy central. Throw in an Advertising Standards Authority adjudication and the blogpost wrote itself. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Interestingly, the blogpost also has the record for the most comments of (I think) any blog on this site. TiD was (if I recall rightly) the only blog at the time that ran the story. [Less common now, I reckon, due to number of bloggers around and also the immediate 140 char blogs that can disseminate news and nonsense so efficiently via Twitter, but in the heady days of 2008 - surely the golden age of blogging - terrific blogpost fodder was as abundant as &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_Pigeon"&gt;Passenger Pigeons&lt;/a&gt;]. This point is important, as it meant that anyone searching for The Ideal Spine Centre or its details found either the Ideal Spine Centre's website, or mine. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is not my plan (nor have I the time) to put in a factual blow by blow account of the similarities in the two posts, because although I would like to do all the worthy things that a wounded e-martyr could do, I'm not sure it would change or help anything. &lt;a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=christian+farthing&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;aq=t&amp;amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&amp;amp;client=firefox-a"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As such, here is my succinct treatisette.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A google search of "&lt;a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Ideal+Spine+Centre&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;aq=t&amp;amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&amp;amp;client=firefox-a"&gt;Ideal Spine Centre&lt;/a&gt;" (without quotes), "&lt;a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=christian+farthing&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;aq=t&amp;amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&amp;amp;client=firefox-a"&gt;Christian Farthing&lt;/a&gt;" (again without quotes) and a number of other searches brought my blogpost up consistently as the 3rd result on Google, underneath the Ideal Spine Centre's own webpage. (This has changed slightly due to TBIJ coverage, but it is still 3rd/4th/5th etc). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I want you to imagine you have a snippet of information leaked to you by a local who wants you to run a story on The Ideal Spine Centre. Being part of TBIJ you begin to journalistically investigate and so, run a google search. You find the first post outwith of the Centre's own website to be a blogpost providing the whole backstory to your leaked tidbit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you:&lt;br /&gt;a) ignore it and go and find the exact same information from primary sources?&lt;br /&gt;b) Read it and use it to find all the primary sources are beautifully linked and excellently expounded with dynamic wit, contact the blogger and ask permission to use it or at the very least link to it?&lt;br /&gt;c) Read it and use it to find all the primary sources are beautifully linked and excellently expounded with dynamic wit and use the information without any reference or hat-tip.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is up to you to answer the question to your own satisfaction. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(I would have thought if they had done some digging they would have found a myriad of dubious things not on my blogpost, like the disgraceful website &lt;a href="http://who.is/whois/healthresources-nhs.co.uk/"&gt;NHS Health Resource&lt;/a&gt; (Yes - NHS! which apparently stands for the Nationwide Health Service), but a &lt;a href="http://who.is/whois/healthresources-nhs.co.uk/"&gt;quick look at who.is&lt;/a&gt; shows the Ideal Spine Centre is the registrant. But maybe they didn't look hard enough or think that it was worth mentioning. And it wasn't on my blogpost. I'm just saying.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But there are two issues here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. The concern about whether or not material was lifted from a blog and used without a hat-tip.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. The response by TBIJ when I enquired about it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They are very separate and although the first may be a misunderstanding, the second shows TBIJ in my mind to be no better than their tabloid dead-tree main stream media counterpricks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I first noted the similarities, I satisfied myself that I wasn't being too silly and precious about a 3.5 year old blogpost and wrote a very measured and polite comment on TBIJ website. Other comments that were after mine have since appeared, but mine have been censored. This is the sort of thing people like Nadine Dorries does to ensure no critical comment appears on her blog [if you want to satisfy yourself of my non-hypocrisy, please check the myriad of anti-Dr*T comments on this site].&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I then contacted them on Twitter (@TBIJ) - once again, I twut a few times with no response.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I then emailed the author of the article, &lt;a href="http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/author/melanie-newman/"&gt;Melanie Newman&lt;/a&gt;, outlining my concerns.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was told my blog was a third party collation of information she already had. I immediately emailed her back thanking her, and asking if she had read my blog before writing her article. I finished the email saying that I felt cooperation was a much stronger force than individualism, and we had the joint end goal of getting the story exposed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No response.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A day later I sent a reminder but like The Sundays' song, here is where the story ends. No engagement. No response. Ignoreland.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Conversation dead. So it goes. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This (in my limited understanding of intertubery) is how people who don't 'get' the transition between main stream media and online bloggery operate. I don't know if Melanie will have a change of heart and engage (I'd dearly like that to happen) or whether they'll publish my comment in a few days or whether next month I'll get a tweet from them. In any case, to me at least, they've demonstrated they haven't adapted yet to online life, and (more embarrassingly I'm sure) they can't handle a wimpy part-time blogger politely whinging, without freezing up and closing rank.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm writing this all just to document the event and to suggest in passing that bloggers (what blog for free out of pastime, pleasure, provocation or petulance) will always be different from people who write stuff on the intertubes and get paid for it. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'd also be interested to know if I am a lone moaner, or if this is a recurring behavioural pattern.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Post Script - The Bureau of Investigative Journalism's Policy on stealing stories is &lt;a href="http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/steal-our-stories/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. They're happy enough for you to do that, providing you link to them and all the links to the story. That's a really good policy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hat-tip to the Whitstable Skeptic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;EDITED TO ADD (Tues 22nd Nov):The BIJ page now has a link to the my blogpost.After a lot of helpful retweets of this blog on Twitter, I got an email from the Editor saying they wouldn't link to the blog as there was no need to, as the journalist "couldn't recall" reading my blog.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After a few exchanges I gave him a phone. It wasn't a very pleasant conversation, (due seemingly to me being sad, pathetic, aggressive and not understanding nuance) but we got a compromise in the end - a tiny link on the BIJ webpage, which was all that was requested right at the very start. They could have avoided the whole blown-up event by taking this extremely small step in the first place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I asked why my comments had been censored on the BIJ article - it seems the Editor does not like anyone making any negative reference to their journalists on comments (I didn't) despite there being a pretty negative one there right now from an angry chiropractor. Ho hum.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maybe it was a good thing, maybe it wasn't, but perhaps there's at least one more journalist that will keep a more accurate history of their sources from now on.ENDS&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-6561102749014043679?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/6561102749014043679/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/11/bureau-of-investigative-journalism-new.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/6561102749014043679'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/6561102749014043679'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/11/bureau-of-investigative-journalism-new.html' title='Bureau of Investigative Journalism - New ideas, old habits?'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-8044594314469758198</id><published>2011-10-16T16:53:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2011-10-16T17:14:31.363+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the pod delusion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ASA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MHRA'/><title type='text'>Pod Delusion's LIVE Second Birthday</title><content type='html'>&lt;object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0" width="352" height="200" id="embed-352x200" align="middle"&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="false"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="scale" value="exactfit"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://embed.ipadio.com/embed/v1/embed-352x200.swf?callInView=local_20111013130426&amp;channelInView=WEBSITE_USER_3452&amp;phlogId=9216&amp;phonecastId=103241"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="quality" value="high" /&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://embed.ipadio.com/embed/v1/embed-352x200.swf?callInView=local_20111013130426&amp;channelInView=WEBSITE_USER_3452&amp;phlogId=9216&amp;phonecastId=103241" quality="high" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="352" height="200" name="embed-352x200" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" allowFullScreen="false" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" scale="exactfit"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tuesday 13th September saw the 2nd Birthday live recording of &lt;a href="http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/2011/10/13/the-pod-delusions-live-second-birthday-show/"&gt;The Pod Delusion&lt;/a&gt;, at The Monarch Pub in Camden, London.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wasn't sure if I could make it on time, but James kindly put me late in the bill (1h 4m 32s to be precise) and so all was fine. It was the first time I've done any Skeptics in the Pub style talks, and given it would be late in the evening, tried to keep it short and lively. With very little live stage experience (and being shit scared), I wasn't sure how it would go down - having listened back to it, people seemed to laugh in the right places and there were no overly loud yawns so perhaps it went OK. Not sure I'll become a stand-up anytime soon, though...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just to competeness, the early heckle that wasn't picked up by the mike was "Are you doing this by First Past The Post or Proportional Representation?" - very Pod Delusion :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, here's the script, titled "Perception":&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hello everyone.&lt;br /&gt;Just before we get started, I like to find out the demographic of the audience, so if there was a general election tomorrow, which party would you vote for? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Labour?&lt;br /&gt;LibDems?&lt;br /&gt;Conservatives?&lt;br /&gt;Other?&lt;br /&gt;No vote?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK, - I should point out for the listeners on the podcast that the audience here is roughly 95%  conservative voting. So that’s a big thumbs up to Cameron and his bunch of massive cuts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, perhaps also for the listeners at home, I should paint an accurate picture of the setup here. – there are about 6 or 700 people here in this arena,.... almost entirely women....... aged 20 – 25. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am standing on a stage a few meters away from the front....6 ft 10 inches tall ..... and naked from the waist up. The small beads of perspiration on my hairless chest are catching the soft sensual glow of the stage lights to form halos which dance across my perfectly chiselled 6-pack.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It’s fair to say at this point that the perception of listeners of this podcast may be slightly different  to the perception of those watching here and now.And it’s perception that I want to talk a bit about tonight.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just to clarify - people listening at home, the bit about everyone voting Tory and being women is completely true. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let’s look closer at this idea of perception  – I’m guessing for the bunch of Tory-loving women as you are, you see something of an idol and a hero in the Member of Parliament for Mid Bedfordshire, Mzzz Nadine Dorries, in the news this week for her amendment  to the NHS Bill..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would argue that her perception via the media to the PASSIVE public is of a women;  an ex-nurse, fighting for better access for women to independent abortion counselling. How could anyone not support that?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I haven’t time to go into the details here, but with help from friend of the podcast Dr Evan Harris, it became clear this was a Trojan Horse amendment and would have a very different outcome to that which was being touted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Listeners to the Pod Delusion will know that my infrequent assaults on your sensitive ears are usually regarding alternative medicines and quackery. Perhaps on one level, testing the claims of the product profiteers and perhaps on another level discussing the difference between a seller who is a True Believer and seller who knows he is touting bogus nonsense.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perception in this field is paramount – think of all the sciency-sounding sillyness that surrounds some wellness products to give it an air of authenticity - ; &lt;br /&gt;weasel words that imply efficacy but in reality may help to reduce some of the symptoms associated with a mild instance of whatever the fashionable malady of the moment is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In UK we have pretty good laws governing the rights of the consumer:&lt;br /&gt;The Sale of Goods Act 1979 – things must be as described and fit for purpose,&lt;br /&gt;The Cancer Act 1939 – which states that advertisements are prohibited to offer to treat any person or prescribe any remedy for cancer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We’ve got the robust but admittedly toothless Advertising Standards Authority ensuring adverts are legal, decent, honest and truthful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We have the bodies like the Office of Fair Trading and local Trading Standards and services like Consumer Direct – above that we’ve got EU law further increasing our protection.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All well and good until you go online. I know that on the high street I can go any shop make a transaction and as a consumer, assume these rights mentioned earlier.&lt;br /&gt;If I go online and use a company with a .co.uk website, potentially nothing no rights apply. Using a site that LOOKS like it’s in UK doesn’t necessarily give you any of the protection, even from EU level. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perfect for the quack merchant wanting to look like it adheres to UK rules but without actually having to..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The perception of a co.uk website to me is one of trust – in reality all you can safely assume is that it is written in English and will charge you in UK pounds. I reckon I’m savvy enough on this and undoubtedly you, the Conservative Ladies’ Guild are too, but I guess there many UK residents who don’t realise this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To circumvent any rules laid down by Nominet,the UK Domain Name registrar, non-UK companies (or potential foreign snakeoil salespeople) only need to nominate a UK agent to register the website, and can pretty much sidestep a lot of consumer legislation. To make a ridiculous comparison, it would be like a non-UK company renting a premises on the high street and selling dubious goods to the public with impunity. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What? Starbucks? Tsk.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You get the point. A company outside the UK could ignore all the consumer legislation and chuck their dodgy product on a UK registered website, complete with disease-busting claims. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Special Rosehips for arthritis (hips for hips, you see), mistletoe for cancer, herbs for high blood pressure. Why not? Everybody can buy, and nobody can close you down.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’ve raised this issue with my MP, the Dept of Health, and the Advertising Standards Authority, all of whom point refer me to the UK regulator, Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA). Each time the response comes back from them – outside our power.  In the most recent case, I got the following:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; “The .co.uk website is registered in the USA and therefore falls outside the remit of the MHRA. We have referred the information about this website to our counterparts in the USA, the Food Drug Administration (FDA)."&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What in the name of Ernst does the FDA have to do with anything? As a potential purchaser of products in the UK, I don’t give a rat’s arse  what the FDA think about a website, and I’m pretty sure the reverse is also true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The recent move by the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) to cover websites is obviously a positive thing, but this still only applies to UK-registered company – non-UK pill-peddlers are still free to advertise on UK registered websites without much hassle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Free to offer people like me and millions others of vulnerable people with diseases likewith arthritis, for the tiny sum of £99.95, the false glimmer of hope that perhaps for one day, one hour, even one minute the debilitating chronic pain which affects the person physically and mentally might just be alleviated, but never is.  Promoted by the perception that it’s a UK website and so...  they couldn’t sell it if it didn’t work, right?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, this goes way past perception. Like my imaginary sixpack, this is an obvious deception. Unlike my imaginary sixpack, it could negatively affect the lives of many UK residents.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is Dr*T reporting for the Pod Delusion Live.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-8044594314469758198?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/8044594314469758198/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/10/pod-delusions-live-second-birthday.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/8044594314469758198'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/8044594314469758198'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/10/pod-delusions-live-second-birthday.html' title='Pod Delusion&apos;s LIVE Second Birthday'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-8953716739828524757</id><published>2011-08-03T07:24:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2011-08-03T07:27:12.366+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nexus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ASA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Kenzo Kase'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='photoniser'/><title type='text'>Nexus Nonsense &amp; Photonizer phoolishness</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BtSfOxP1WFs/TjhXDDnOq3I/AAAAAAAAANc/lmSBdozUAl8/s1600/photonizer_sleeve.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 217px; height: 320px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BtSfOxP1WFs/TjhXDDnOq3I/AAAAAAAAANc/lmSBdozUAl8/s320/photonizer_sleeve.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5636350643675245426" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Breaking the laws of science is becoming quite an artform. From time to time, goodly nerds send me websites and adverts demonstrating how you too can somehow create energy, beat an uncurable disease, become immortal etc. As the quack market gets ever crowded, newer and more exciting bullshit comes along, clambering to show the world how elegantly it can dispose of scientific rigour and dust its feet of evidence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a problem though for the slick, lithe marketeers whose tempting fruit so many are captivated by, (only to be found later, heavy of heart and light of wallet) - the number of tricks they can pull are limited, obvious and well-documented. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The picture above is of a &lt;a href="http://www.accapi.co.uk/products/Photonizer/Photonizer-Bottle-Covers/Photonizer-Small-Large.html"&gt;Photonizer Bottle Cover&lt;/a&gt;, sold by Accapi UK LLP in their Accapi Nexus range of products.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For a mere £20, you more efficiently hydrate your body during work-outs helping you beat your personal best in the pseudoscientific weightlifting. The Advertising Standards Authority &lt;a href="http://asa.org.uk/ASA-action/Adjudications/2011/8/Accapi-UK-LLP/SHP_ADJ_156400.aspx"&gt;has today ruled that&lt;/a&gt; the website advertising this product breaches its code on misleading advertising, substantiation and making unfounded medicinal claims. A quick look at the website shows why:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The top of the page has a quote from &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_Moro"&gt;Simone Moro&lt;/a&gt;, so we can tick &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/05/five-as-of-empty-argument.html"&gt;Argument from Anecdote&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;and &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/05/five-as-of-empty-argument.html"&gt;Argument from Authority&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; straight away.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Next we have the name of the product itself - Nexus Photonizer. To me this sounds like one of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor_Frink"&gt;Professor Frink's&lt;/a&gt; products, but &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/02/brainmax-for-maximising-your-memory.html"&gt;ASA precedent&lt;/a&gt; has shown that if you use an invented word in your marketing, even though it sounds like another word with a defined meaning, you aren't implying that meaning. It's a very sensible marketing ploy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now we get to the product description, bit-by-bit:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Photonizer 4-14 is a revolutionary bottle cover, made using the exclusive Nexus fabric. Thanks to its constant natural emission of infrared rays, it has a beneficial effect on the properties of water and water-based liquids.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And there goes the science mangle, mangling its way to sillyness - Is there any evidence for this wonder material that can impart magic through plastic to water? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Accapi LLP provided ASA with a summary of a study that assessed the effect on the characteristics of water when exposed to NEXUS material. (The Nexus material, by the way, turns up in ZERO references in PubMed, the massive scientific literature searcher). Note the evidence - a summary (i.e. no methods, results etc) of a study which exposed water to the material. But water never touches the material if it's a bottle cover, so this evidence, even though minimal and flaky, is not even relevant. The ASA are too clever to miss that sort of wool-pulling and concluded the study was not robust enough to make any claims about "beneficial effects of water". Hence it was deemed misleading and unsubstantiated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The effect of the Photonizer 4-14 bottle and flask cover on water and water-based liquids is very fast. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unhelpful and meaningless, and Accapi LLP couldn't provide evidence to ASA - again considered misleading and unsubstantiated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Scientific studies demonstrate that the natural infrared emissions of Nexus fabric have an important effect on a litre of water just ten minutes from the moment the Photonizer is applied to the bottle. Liquids reach optimum and stable hydration levels at 30 minutes and these properties and maintained. When the Photonize is removed, it takes a further 30 minutes for liquids to return to their original state.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Without any evidence, and with what has be shown above, there's no reason to give that any credence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Benefits of Photonizer 4-14:&lt;br /&gt;    Improves the hydration of the body during training, competition and recovery&lt;br /&gt;    Speeds up and optimises the absorption and digestibility of nutrients contained in supplements (for example, salts)&lt;br /&gt;    Stimulates diuresis, resulting in a more rapid elimination of waste products&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It appears from ASA evidence, that this is based on anecdotes from users, so the level of evidence is that of astrologers and faith-healers. Not surprisingly, the ASA concluded they were misleading and were medicinal claims which are not allowed in authorised products.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, it's a new form sexy product full of exciting science, but it has the same old tricks of bullshittery concealed within:&lt;br /&gt;1. Arguments from authority&lt;br /&gt;2. Arguments from anecdotes&lt;br /&gt;3. Not providing any robust scientific evidence&lt;br /&gt;4. Provide unrelated scientific evidence perhaps in the hope that it will not be noticed&lt;br /&gt;5. Use scientific words liberally and confidently - meaning is irrelevant&lt;br /&gt;6. Get it seen on TV by making sure you get celebrity endorsement&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In reality, it's a similar set-up to &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/07/dr-kenzo-kase-and-kinesio-tape-observer.html"&gt;Dr Kenzo Kase's Kinesio Tape&lt;/a&gt; which was recently in the Observer as an advertorial, and an embarassment to the science journalists at the sister paper, the Guardian.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are plenty of products in all different guises out there, but I'll warrant those tricks above (whether unintentionally or otherwise) will be used time and time again to sell you, the person they treat as an idiot, a worthless product.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-8953716739828524757?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/8953716739828524757/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/08/nexus-nonsense-photonizer-phoolishness_03.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/8953716739828524757'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/8953716739828524757'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/08/nexus-nonsense-photonizer-phoolishness_03.html' title='Nexus Nonsense &amp; Photonizer phoolishness'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BtSfOxP1WFs/TjhXDDnOq3I/AAAAAAAAANc/lmSBdozUAl8/s72-c/photonizer_sleeve.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-8545777637595852544</id><published>2011-08-02T22:32:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2011-08-02T22:54:33.650+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='levodyn'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the pod delusion'/><title type='text'>Pod Delusion: A Business Proposal Based on Levodyn</title><content type='html'>&lt;object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0" width="352" height="200" id="embed-352x200" align="middle"&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="false"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="scale" value="exactfit"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://embed.ipadio.com/embed/v1/embed-352x200.swf?callInView=local_20110729003935&amp;channelInView=WEBSITE_USER_3452&amp;phlogId=9216&amp;phonecastId=90569"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="quality" value="high" /&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://embed.ipadio.com/embed/v1/embed-352x200.swf?callInView=local_20110729003935&amp;channelInView=WEBSITE_USER_3452&amp;phlogId=9216&amp;phonecastId=90569" quality="high" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="352" height="200" name="embed-352x200" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" allowFullScreen="false" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" scale="exactfit"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've got a little slot on this week's &lt;a href="http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/"&gt;Pod Delusion&lt;/a&gt;, the Podcast About Interesting Things - about 30 mins in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I thought it might be funny to pitch for the darkside and create a quack product, basing it on recently-ASA-slapped &lt;a href="http://www.levodyn.co.uk/"&gt;Levodyn&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Give it a listen and let me know if you're in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;T&lt;br /&gt;-------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good people of the Pod Delusion, with your righteous anger and desire for truth, equality and defence of the little guy, how would like to toss those pesky morals away and make some dirty money?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’ll let you in on my plan – just you, mind, don’t go blabbing to everyone, or we’ll be back right back where we started bleating about evidence and morals.&lt;br /&gt;You see, there’s millions of people out there with certain health problems who will buy any old shit that looks convincing. All you have to do is get a few natural herbs – anything’ll do – mash it up, put it in a pill. Get some posh media grad to do some fancy marketing, you know, make it look all contemporary and sophisticated, get a website and bit of advertising and ker-ching, watch the readies roll.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here let me show you what I mean.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There’s a product called Levodyn, for blood pressure. The &lt;a href="http://www.levodyn.com"&gt;US website&lt;/a&gt; says it cures high blood pressure naturally. Properly cures. But then has a disclaimer at the bottom in small faint type saying “These products are NOT intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.” – can you believe the feds allow that crap? The &lt;a href="http://www.levodyn.co.uk/"&gt;UK website&lt;/a&gt; is a bit cagier – the advertising standards authority has already pulled them up for it. The makers just refused to respond and guess what happened – pretty much nothing! The UK website says it ‘helps’ lower blood pressure, which apparently is fine. There’s a few other bits of bullshit about promoting cardiovascular health, whatever that means.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There’s a few testimonials on there – who knows whether they’re true or not, but punters love that kind of crap, you know “I found this product on the internet and it literally saved my life”. The adverts people asked if the testemonials were true – the levodyn sellers just ignored them!  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There’s a load of woolly stuff about science which is enough waffle to go over people’s head but feel science-good – anyone who checks the evidence is not their kind of customer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The UK medicines watchdog, the MHRA, only give a monkeys if it’s actually got something in there that is going to have a medicinal effect – Levodyn does, but the MHRA decided it wasn’t present in a meaningful amount to bother about, so they don’t care.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The website is a .co.uk website and the product claims to be made and dispatched from UK, so people will have loads of confidence in it – the beauty is that the .co.uk website is registered to a USA address, so MHRA can’t do anything about it anyway!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, we make up a product, put some natural crap in it, do some marketing, put it on nice, modern, co.uk website registered outside UK, make up a few a sciencey claims that are either meaningless or untestable and watch that pill-poppin public pelt you with pounds. High blood pressure, arthritis, excema, back bad – anything that loads of people suffer from, so we can convert the big numbers into sales. We’re only giving them choice right?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So. Are you in? Come on.... what’s the worst that could happen? Probably some guy does a podcast piece about you, but that’s about it. It’s easy. Ah, suit yourself, you Big Pharma, choice Nazi.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-8545777637595852544?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/8545777637595852544/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/08/pod-delusion-business-proposal-based-on.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/8545777637595852544'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/8545777637595852544'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/08/pod-delusion-business-proposal-based-on.html' title='Pod Delusion: A Business Proposal Based on Levodyn'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-2207250353438177205</id><published>2011-07-11T19:33:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2011-07-11T20:15:48.116+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Righteous INdignation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Simon Singh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Kinesio'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Observer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Kenzo Kase'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chiropractic'/><title type='text'>Dr Kenzo Kase and Kinesio tape - The Observer advertorial enters an evidence-free zone</title><content type='html'>Once more unto the podcast, dear Friends, once more - &lt;a href="http://parafort.com/?p=1638"&gt;Righteous Indignation Episode 95&lt;/a&gt; to be precise, pretending to know something about philosophers and assassinating pathetic evidence presented by &lt;a href="http://www.freezepage.com/1309716122XKOLZYGNLR"&gt;the Observer&lt;/a&gt; as proof that &lt;a href="http://www.kinesiotaping.co.uk/?gclid=CMvug56K7akCFQEa4Qod3BCvXA"&gt;Dr Kenzo Kase's Kinesio&lt;/a&gt; tape does anything apart from make you look like you've been in a fight with &lt;a href="http://www.neurohealthchiro.com.au/marvels-of-kinesio-taping-1589"&gt;some acid-tripping sellotape&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The dialogue is greatly enhanced with Marsh and Hayley's inputs, so, um, I would listen to the podcast rather than read the notes, but if you insist here is my crib sheet. For some reason (I'm looking directly at you Hayley), the first line is missing in the edit, but some brightly coloured tape should sort that out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;T&lt;br /&gt;----------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Last Sunday, The Observer &lt;a href="http://www.freezepage.com/1309716122XKOLZYGNLR"&gt;published an article&lt;/a&gt; by Tim Lewis titled:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Dr Kenzo Kase: My magic tape can aid injured muscles&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;with the byline,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Whether in garish pink or tasteful beige, Kinesio tape provides pain relief for sports stars. And it works on dogs, says Japanese chiropractor Dr Kenzo Kase.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whenever I read an article that talks about a “magic cure” I tend to think about “magic beans” – when the strapline contains the word "chiropractor", you know you’re going to in for a bumpy ride on well trodden path of dodgy claims, weak evidence and celebrity endorsement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It’s fair to say that at this point I was expecting to see &lt;a href="http://gizmodo.com/5723577/powerbalance-admits-their-wristbands-are-a-scam"&gt;PowerBalance&lt;/a&gt; mentioned, as Kinesio tape could favourably be described as being from the same marketing stable  - relying heavily on high profile sportstars to promote their products - David Beckham, Lance Armstrong and Serena Williams are amongst the many that have been spotted with the brightly coloured tape in trademark designs on various parts of the body, supposedly to help the muscles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The original idea behind the tape (now removed from the UK website) was that the adhesive used was in a particular waveform which “microscopically lifts the skin”. Or as Krazy Kenzo states in the article &lt;blockquote&gt;“Your pain sensors are located between the epidermis and the dermis, the first and second layers of your skin, so I thought that if I applied tape to the pain it would lift the epidermis slightly up and make a space between the two layers.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Basic mechanics makes it clear this is nonsense – imagine you have a ham sandwich. Actually, sorry Hayley, just for you imagine it is a cheese sandwich, and you’ve just placed the second piece on top. Now if I give you some sellotape, can you put a strip on the bread so that it lifts it slightly from the rest of the sandwich? No. This, as the kidz on twitter say.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also in the article he goes on to talk about jetlag and how it’s due to the fact that &lt;blockquote&gt;“we are at very high altitude and that causes our body temperatures to go up”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now that is clear, unequivocal nonsense.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The reason why we have jetlag is because when we fly to a place in a different timezone, our circadian rhythms are all on the wonk, and our bodies want to go to sleep even though it’s only midday. Someone on a flight from UK to South Africa will not experience jetlag, because although it’s an 11 hour flight it only crosses one time zone, and so your body won’t think everything has gone to cock. The fact that Krazy Kenzo is a chiropractor demonstrates that his understanding of evidence-bases is weak at best. This &lt;a href="http://www.ipadio.com/phlogs/TrystanSwale/2010/01/25/Ep32-Simon-Singh"&gt;show has covered&lt;/a&gt; the fun and games with chiropractors in the UK over the last number of years with the British Chiropractic Association failing to &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/07/beware-spinal-trap-lawyer-friendly.html"&gt;make a case for libel&lt;/a&gt; over Simon Singh saying in a Guardian article that “Chiropractors happily promoted bogus treatments”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But let’s take a second to be kind to Krazy Kenzo – maybe his theories are trash, his biomechanics knowledge laughable and understanding of air-travel in relation to timezones childish... but, maybe the products do work. Maybe he just has the wrong reasoning.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the article he discusses some of the evidence base for his kinesio tape.  I’ve put a link in the show notes to an &lt;a href="http://apgaylard.wordpress.com/2011/07/03/the-guadrian-and-dr-kase%E2%80%99s-magic-tape/"&gt;amazing review of the evidence&lt;/a&gt; in the literature about Kinesio tape by @APGaylard. It might surprise you to know that there have a number of small trial studies for kinesio tape, none of which providing anything remotely close to robust evidence for efficacy. This was yet another product with maximum marketing and minimum use. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The reference in the article is to a 2008 paper which it describes as “a study of 42 people with shoulder problems which indicated that Kinesio taping offered immediate pain relief.” Wow – immediate pain relief. I think this is an excellent learning paper for people who perhaps haven’t got a strong science background and would find reading a scientific paper a bit daunting.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So at this stage, I’d like you to pause the podcast, go to the show notes, and follow the link to the &lt;a href="http://www.kinesiotaping.com/kta/research/2008-4.pdf"&gt;PDF of the 2008 paper&lt;/a&gt; printed in the Journal of Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Without reading the whole paper, we can pick out a few bits from the paper which are relevant and show why the paper is of little value.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have you got it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good. Now I don’t want to repeat what’s been said in other places about how to run trials of things – perhaps Trick or Treatment by Simon Singh and Edzard Ernst or maybe Bad Science by Ben Goldacre can provide some enlightenment on that – but here’s a few basics:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The title:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The Clinical Efficacy of Kinesio Tape for Shoulder Pain: A randomized, Double-blinded, Clinical Trial. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You’ll see the conclusion the front page stating that Kinesio Taping may be of some assistance to clinicians....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The gold standard of trials is that it is multi-centre, randomised, placebo-controlled and double blinded – so it sounds like the trial is fairly robust, but as we’ll see, the title is writing cheques the trial can’t cash.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first part of a paper is always the intro and background – in this case a page or so of how bloody amazing the kinesio tape is, along with suggested ways that it works and how nothing compares to it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First thing to look at is the number of people taking part – referred to as the n number. For a small pilot trial, n is usually less than 50, and generally, an effect at this level may help confirm a hunch and suggest something interesting, but unless n&gt;100 the results are always going to be shaky. We can see they enrolled 42 people. Not terrible for a small pilot. However we have a little quirk here – so they enrolled 42 for the trial, but they originally had 64 as eligible. That’s around 1/3 discounted for some reason – the paper explains that &lt;blockquote&gt;“the exclusion criteria were chosen in an attempt to eliminate subjects with pathology that would be less likely to respond to the selected taping intervention”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;  They were forcing a positive result, right from the start.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let’s look at the blinding – the title states it is double blind and randomised. Both extremely important as this is a massive source of bias. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“The primary author is a certified Kinesio Taping practitioner and applied all the taping procedures.”&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;br /&gt;So it wasn’t double blind at all, in fact it turns out that the person with the vested interest in a positive result was taping both the study treatment and the sham treatment. The paper also shows photos of the sham treatment. &lt;br /&gt;Can either of you spot the trial carcrash? Well it’s two things – one, it is immediately obvious to anyone which is the sham. Secondly, the sham treatment is using the Kinesio tape.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let’s take the first point -  if the administrator of the therapy or treatment knows who is getting which treatment AND the patients know, then there is no blinding, and any results obtained should be treated very sceptically.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secondly, they are testing their own tape used one way against their own tape used a different way, which means they aren’t even testing the efficacy of the tape – not one part of title is accurate. At best they are testing different ways of using the tape, but the trial is so shoddy, that any results are effectively meaningless.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Skip down to the discussion section (the results in a nutshell were that some people who had been taped up got better and some got worse, which was similar to the sham arm. Initially the treatment arm fared better but this difference disappeared by the third day.) How to explain this?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They mention two things:&lt;br /&gt;1. Improvement in control arm could have due to the tape despite intending to be a sham application&lt;br /&gt;2. A strong placebo effect of taping has been noted in previous trials.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So despite choosing people who would give positive results, pretending to double-blind but not doing any blinding, not testing what they said they were testing, the results still didn’t go their way. And they reason it away by saying the tape still had some effect, but that the treatment arm worked more at the start. Depending on your level of cynicism, this is at best being confused and at worst, outright bullshit.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;A crap trial, badly run, useless results, bizarre interpretation, dubious conclusion, but printed in the Observer and given by Kinesio as proof the product works. What % of people will hunt down this paper? – I’m guessing 0.001. Kinesio are so sure that the vast majority of people won’t get past the title that they have the article for free on their website.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What astounding investigative journalism – or indeed what a great way to get cheap advertising.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Thanks to @APGaylard, @_JosephineJones, Danny Strickland (@dts1970) and @Andrew_Taylor for their twitter help.)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-2207250353438177205?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/2207250353438177205/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/07/dr-kenzo-kase-and-kinesio-tape-observer.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/2207250353438177205'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/2207250353438177205'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/07/dr-kenzo-kase-and-kinesio-tape-observer.html' title='Dr Kenzo Kase and Kinesio tape - The Observer advertorial enters an evidence-free zone'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-5169687211038254847</id><published>2011-06-28T21:23:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2011-06-28T21:56:14.324+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Righteous INdignation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='podcast'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bugarach'/><title type='text'>Righteous Indignation - Sponsored by SouthofFranceDelusions.fr</title><content type='html'>Those merry munchkins at Righteous Indignation Podcast kindly asked me to help out on this week's episode, which can be found &lt;a href="http://parafort.com/ri/?p=1627"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Righteous Indignation is the fortnightly UK-based podcast that aims to critically examine extraordinary claims and the people who surround them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The transcript of my news story is below, and as mentioned in the podcast ended up sounding more like a poor cousin of the Guardian Weekend Travel section.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nonetheless, the story centres around &lt;a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/16/uk-france-sects-idUSLNE75F03X20110616"&gt;this story&lt;/a&gt; of the French governmental organisation announcing that it is keeping an eye on potential of problems caused my misguided Apolcalptic sects in the south of France. Without knowing, I was on holiday at the exact spot a few months ago, so it seemed relevant to me at least. What I didn't find out when I was there was how to pronounce the name Bugarach, so I've had a stab. I know people on the intertubes can be quite shy about this sort of thing, but please do come forward and let me know if it's wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is the transcript, and lucky for you, you miss out on the singing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-----------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“It’s the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine” – &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why is it the end of the world?  Because some people have interpreted that the current cycle of the  Mayan (Mesoamerican long count calendar) comes to a conclusion on 21st Dec 2012, signalling “the end of the world as we know it”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And why do I feel fine? Because I know the only place on earth that will survive the apocalypse, and what’s more I’ve been there. Twice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I guess I should tell you where it is, but maybe I should keep it a secret, after all if the 6 billion people of the world find out where it is and go there, then I might not feel fine AT ALL but very claustrophic and it would make the apocalypse a bit of a waste of time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The place is a rocky outcrop by small village called&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugarach"&gt; Bugarach&lt;/a&gt; in the far south of France, in the foothills of the Pyrenees.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is actually this scenario which has caused the&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt; Mission interministérielle de vigilance et de lutte contre les dérives sectaires&lt;/span&gt; some headache. The &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Mission interministérielle de vigilance et de lutte contre les dérives sectaires&lt;/span&gt; translates as “Interministerial Mission for Monitoring and Combatting Cultic Deviances”  and goes by the acronym of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miviludes"&gt;MIVILUDES&lt;/a&gt; which is probably good for everyone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mivilude is a government agency which analyzes movements perceived to constitute a threat to public order or violate French law, specifically where cultish character is observed. Incidentally it was Miviludes which classified Scientology as a DANGEROUS CULT in a parliamentary report, as mentioned on previous episodes of RI.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You could imagine 6 billion people turning up in village of about 200 people the sort of thing that would get them going a bit and last week they published a report saying the area should be monitored in the run up to Dec 21 2012.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Georges Fenech from Mivilude said (presumably in French) “We know from history and experience that apocalyptic discourse can lead to tragedy. This is why we have taken measures to notify police and other public authorities in order to monitor the situation."http://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bugarach village and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pic_de_Bugarach"&gt;its neighbouring peak&lt;/a&gt; make for dramatic scenery. It’s a beautiful, unspoilhttp://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gift, rugged and life-affirming place.The rocky outcrop is set within a few miles of the fantastic remains of the &lt;a href="http://www.catharcastles.info/"&gt;Cathar castles,&lt;/a&gt; set high up on knife edge crags with the snow-capped peaks of the Pyrenees in the background.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism"&gt;The Cathars&lt;/a&gt; were a catholic sect that existed around 1200 AD and were considered heretics by Rome so during their few hundred years of existence they were continually subjected to the full force of papal might, including crusades, persecution and even massacre to the charge of “Kill them all – the Lord will recognise his own”. Jesus only wanted some of them for a sunbeam.&lt;br /&gt;http://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif&lt;br /&gt;Rumour has it that some of the Cathar prefects managed to escape with the Cathar treasure, which has not be located to this very day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With the heady cocktail of bloodthirsty catholics, secrets, and treasure it should come as no surprise that the Cathars (and the region around Bugarach) were discussed in &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Holy-Blood-Grail-Michael-Baigent/dp/0440136482"&gt;The Holy Blood Holy Cross&lt;/a&gt; and that the treasure is rumoured to be the Holy Grail, which is supposedly hidden in the mountains.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rumours of Mossad appearances, Nazi appearances and alien appearances abound on the internet with even Nostradamus noting its positive vibrations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Somehow (and I’m afraid that’s a huge jump in logic I’m not prepared to take) that means that this is where the civilisation safety net will be, come the end. However, according to locals, that enormous jump in logic is a mere bagatelle for some people – tourism is up considerably and the price of property has rocketed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a way it’s quite a middle class rapture con:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Listen, apparently the world is going to end next year, but I’ve got this amaaaaazing little gites in the south of France where you’ll be TOTALLY safe. I’m sure Ocado delivers and everything. DO let me know if you want to parlez.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;French organisation &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.suicide-ecoute.fr/"&gt;Suicide Ecoute&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; said that although they hadn’t received any direct contact about Bugarach, “People of a weak mental disposition are much more likely to be influenced by cults, and messages spread by social networking sites can be equally dangerous."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think this an odd, but bold step taken by Miviludes. To go public that they are watching what happens, even from a position of responsibility, is to publicise the Bugarach Story much, much wider than it would ever had got before.  As a negative, this can feed the conspiracy theorists who feel that if the authorities are getting involved (despite their reasoning) then they must be on to something and you’re only two sentences away from someone mentioning Lizard people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a positive, it’s obviously a good thing that there is an organisation prepared to look at these events and make sure that if too many misguided people decide to be deluded together, it will be handled appropriately. Handling which may include having a raft of psychologists and suicide experts ready to deal with the many mental meltdowns as a result of believing in an apocalypse which subsequently didn’t apocalise. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I might go back to the area again next year on holiday – the whole area is beautifully and naturally bewitching, with hot springs, history and wines. For me, it is diminished with the all the talk of aliens and perhaps unlike some of the believers, I’ll enjoy it again in 2013 when it reverts back to its sleepy majestic self.&lt;br /&gt;----------------------------&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-5169687211038254847?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/5169687211038254847/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/06/righteous-indignation-sponsored-by.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/5169687211038254847'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/5169687211038254847'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/06/righteous-indignation-sponsored-by.html' title='Righteous Indignation - Sponsored by SouthofFranceDelusions.fr'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-6957956586808875553</id><published>2011-06-17T08:53:00.006+01:00</published><updated>2011-06-17T11:11:28.243+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tim Harford'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the pod delusion'/><title type='text'>Pod Delusion: Tim Harford Interview</title><content type='html'>&lt;object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0" width="352" height="200" id="embed-352x200" align="middle"&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="false"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="scale" value="exactfit"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://embed.ipadio.com/embed/v1/embed-352x200.swf?callInView=local_20110617011242&amp;channelInView=WEBSITE_USER_3452&amp;phlogId=9216&amp;phonecastId=83997"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="quality" value="high" /&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://embed.ipadio.com/embed/v1/embed-352x200.swf?callInView=local_20110617011242&amp;channelInView=WEBSITE_USER_3452&amp;phlogId=9216&amp;phonecastId=83997" quality="high" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="352" height="200" name="embed-352x200" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" allowFullScreen="false" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" scale="exactfit"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Last Friday I went along to see &lt;a href="http://blogs.ft.com/undercover/"&gt;Undercover Economist&lt;/a&gt; and Radio 4's &lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qshd"&gt;More or Less&lt;/a&gt; frontman Tim Harford in Oxford at the &lt;a href="http://www.theigc.org/events/adapt-lectures-tim-harford-friday-10th-june-530pm-oxford-university"&gt;International Growth Centre&lt;/a&gt;. This was part of a &lt;a href="http://timharford.com/2011/06/the-adapt-lectures-2/"&gt;series of lectures &lt;/a&gt;he was giving to promote his new book, &lt;a href="http://timharford.com/books/adapt/"&gt;"ADAPT&lt;/a&gt;- Why Success Always Starts With Failure".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This was my first face-to-face interview for the Pod Delusion (actually, for anything!) and to interview someone who is a bit of hero of mine and a sort of nerd celeb was a honour. (Maybe that's bit OTT, but you get the idea). I was only able to attend at the last minute, also the book is only being out on hardback so I hadn't read it, and the interview was before the lecture so my preparation was scant and manic. Unfortunately, that comes across in the interview, but in reality, Tim is such a gent and a tremendous communicator that the end result is a success of interviewee over interviewer!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The full unedited interview can be found here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0" width="352" height="200" id="embed-352x200" align="middle" title="Ipadio Audio Player"&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="false"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.ipadio.com/embed/v1/embed-352x200.swf?phlogId=14906&amp;phonecastId=84030&amp;channelInView=WEBSITE_USER_5121&amp;callInView=local_20110617100607"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="scale" value="exactfit" /&gt;&lt;param name="quality" value="high" /&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.ipadio.com/embed/v1/embed-352x200.swf?phlogId=14906&amp;phonecastId=84030&amp;channelInView=WEBSITE_USER_5121&amp;callInView=local_20110617100607" quality="high" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="352" height="200" name="embed-352x200" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="always" allowFullScreen="false" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" scale="exactfit" /&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;T&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-6957956586808875553?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/6957956586808875553/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/06/pod-delusion-tim-harford-interview.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/6957956586808875553'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/6957956586808875553'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/06/pod-delusion-tim-harford-interview.html' title='Pod Delusion: Tim Harford Interview'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-414993284069694438</id><published>2011-04-20T19:18:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2011-04-20T19:34:10.744+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Righteous INdignation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='horses'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homeopathy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='glucosamine'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='arthritis'/><title type='text'>RI Podcast - Episode 89. Horses for Courses.</title><content type='html'>Those lovely Righteous Indignates kindly asked me to help out with the podcast this week, and you can download the full episode from the &lt;a href="http://parafort.com/ri/?p=1552"&gt;RI website&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Topics of discussion included the French banning the burqua and an interview with Steven Upton, who is a minister for the Spiritualist's National Union. I did a news piece on some odd goings-on in the world of equine arthritis, and shoe-horned as many horse-based colloquialisms, metaphors and adages as I could. Childish, but fun.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Transcript of the news piece is below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;T&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-----------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’ve got a horsey story this week, seeing as it was the Grand National on Saturday – and much to Hayley and Trystan’s moral disgust, I took a punt on Ballabriggan and my goodly lady popped a few quid each way on Oscar Time.  Happily for us they came in first and second which resulted in the rest of Saturday being somewhat blurry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like many mammals, arthritis affects horses, but especially performance horses who have been worked intensely – high levels of stress on joints and bones in gallops and jumps can increase the onset of the disease, and given the crazy value that some of the top racehorses can hold, keeping arthritis as bay or at least delaying the onset is a key part of horsey management.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It’s fair to say that in general poor people don’t have horses; stabling costs, access, feed, and vet bills are pretty hefty, and despite being a long-standing stereotypical desire of teenage girls inspired by Mills &amp; Boon, for most people a pet pony is out of the question. It’s really only for the well-shod.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So we have an extremely valuable asset, owned almost exclusively by people with money to burn – could there be a more desirable market for the snakeoil salesman?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Needless to say, homeopathy in horses is a huge market – the placebo effect by proxy is well-documented in horses like any other pet, but somehow the strong bond felt by the owner ,between them and the horse seems to make it even more acute.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like in humans, dogs and cats, the favoured dodgy supplement for arthritis in horses is Glucosamine. Due to being a food-supplement rather than medication, the barrier to entry is low and it’s easy to get your product on the market. There a hundreds of sellers and due to heavy marketing in all areas of human and animal arthritis , glucosamine is well-known for being a safe treatment for arthritis. Note my wording – a safe treatment for arthritis. Like homeopathy, glucosamine is safe – even in high doses, which produces lots of products with MAX in the name. (See &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/02/brainmax-for-maximising-your-memory.html"&gt;episode 74 of the Pod Delusion&lt;/a&gt; for my take on glucosamine-pill name fun).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unlike homeopathy glucosamine actually has got plausibility, but like homeopathy the evidence is fairly clearcut – there is no effect compared with a similar administered placebo – I’ll put a link to &lt;a href="http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2011/03/is-recommending-glucosamine-for-arthritis-evidence-based-medicine-or-wishful-thinking/"&gt;a recent article by SkeptVet&lt;/a&gt; which goes through the evidence base behind glucosamine’s safety, plausibility and efficacy. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Straight from the horse’s mouth, if you will.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, why the interest in glucosamine? Well, two suppliers of glucosamine for horses have in the last few weeks been bitching about each others adverts via the Advertising Standards Authority.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The runners in this two-horse race are Equine America and VetVits Ltd. Equine America are based in Horsham (...) and VetVits are based in StPeter’s Port Guernsey, a place with a lot of history of quack product sellers and an address very familiar to the ASA. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Each have had complaints against each other upheld by the ASA in a bizarre insight into how these type of companies operate and the logical sumersaults they perform to keep their placebos selling in preference to their competitor’s.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First out of the stalls was Equine America. On 2nd March, &lt;a href="http://asa.org.uk/ASA-action/Adjudications/2011/3/VetVits-Ltd/TF_ADJ_49821.aspx"&gt;they complained&lt;/a&gt; about VetVits who claimed in an ad that their glucosamine product Equiflex was clinically proven to work. After the ASA had finished pissing themselves at the rubbish 18 horse trial, the complaint was upheld and VetVits were told to change the ad.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good Old Equine America, standing up for evidence-based medicine. But hold your horses, what’s this? Just last week, the &lt;a href="http://asa.org.uk/ASA-action/Adjudications/2011/4/Equine-America-%28UK%29-Ltd/TF_ADJ_50068.aspx"&gt;ASA published the result&lt;/a&gt; of a subsequent complaint, this time by VetVits on an ad from Equine America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Equine America, despite complaining about lack of clinical evidence for their competitor’s product, claimed their own product had clinical evidence. Not only that, but they claimed all the other competitor’s products didn’t have any clinical evidence. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The ad stated “The following Chondroitin / Glucosamine equine joint supplements have no objective clinical evidence of improving joint mobility - NAF Five Star Superflex, EquiFlex, PREMIERflex HA, ExtraFlex HA, STRIDE HA, My Joints, Arthri Aid and NEW MARKET JOINT SUPPLEMENT”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They claimed their product Cortaflex did have. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Once again, the ASA spat their tea all over the laptop in surprise at the howlingly naff level of evidence presented by Equine America – basically a conference proceedings rather than anything in a published scientific journal. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ASA upheld the complaint, and told Equine America not to discredit other marketers or products in future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So both these companies know that they have don’t have any robust clinical evidence for their products. Both these companies know that their competitors don’t have any robust clinical evidence for their products, yet both are prepared to ride roughshod over the evidence in order to enhance their pill sales to credulous horsey people, who presumably have the best interests of the horse at heart. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The analysis of this sort of joust always leads to the same place – hooray for the ASA (although as it relies on complaints to current ads, it is closing the stable door after the horse has bolted) and boo to the pillpushers, who can play irrationality in customers to whatever level they want. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this instance though, it’s hard to see that their pill-pushing comes from a position of delusion, like for instance the homeopath’s. They may spout nonsense, but at least they believe it – given how these companies have acted, I don’t get the feeling of a well-meaning, but misguided supplement provider, but I can only guess.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The other side is the horsey people themselves – stuck in a difficult position; having been told so often that it works, no amount of evidence can convince a user that they’ve been duped.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As the man said, You can lead a horse to water....&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-414993284069694438?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/414993284069694438/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/04/ri-podcast-episode-89-horses-for.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/414993284069694438'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/414993284069694438'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/04/ri-podcast-episode-89-horses-for.html' title='RI Podcast - Episode 89. Horses for Courses.'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-3432600585069978228</id><published>2011-02-25T19:52:00.014Z</published><updated>2011-03-04T08:39:57.647Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the pod delusion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='IntraMed'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ASA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='glucosamine'/><title type='text'>BRAINMax - For Maximising your memory health!</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Do you feel forgetful sometimes? Worrying about whether you left the iron or if you need to buy milk? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You need BRAINMax. BRAINMax is a natural, organic, traditional supplement which will regularise your brain aptitude and at the same time promote memoriness. It can also help reduce thought-decay, while its natural, soothing essences help the brain reconstruct idea-cells, meaning you can relax and enjoy your life!&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sounds pretty good, eh? Five'll get you ten that I could sell this product successfully to any number of chumps who'd lap this kind of sillyness up. It doesn't matter what's actually in the bottle - probably a few vitamins and exotic sounding plant extracts like &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_lavandulifolia"&gt;Salvia lavandulifolia&lt;/a&gt;, which incidentally is used as a 'memory aid'. Just to be clear, the above product is a figment of my beer-happy brain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It *should* raise the eyebrows of anyone with a basic skim of GSCE level science yet the world is full of it. You'll probably have come across things like &lt;a href="http://juvenon.com/product/description.htm"&gt;'cellular health'&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.omega3powder.com/"&gt;'brain boosting supplements'&lt;/a&gt;, and '&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellness"&gt;wellness&lt;/a&gt;' or the liberal sprinkling of real terms used flippantly like "&lt;a href="http://www.thehealthierlife.co.uk/natural-health-articles/mental-health/pyroglutamic-acid-improve-mental-fatigue-00926.html"&gt;mental fatigue&lt;/a&gt;". All are marketing terms, used effectively to avoid using real words with real meanings, because that would make their claims falsifiable - i.e. you could be asked to prove what you're saying and therefore not just make shit up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's easy to claim that a product '&lt;a href="http://www.healthy4life.com/eniva_qplus.htm"&gt;supports good heart health&lt;/a&gt;'. It is a completely unfalsifiable statement. How could you test it? The phrase 'Good heart health' is so woolly that trying to probe what it means would be as futile as liquidising a ghost. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But it has been forever thus, and really all that happens is marketeers get ballsier and better at mangling science, to provide the intelligent-sounding copy that will hopefully shift whatever units they're selling. There's a huge subject on the psychology of sales and selling, but that's for others to harp on about.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What prompted the outpouring of pseudoscientific dangly-bits above was a ruling by the Advertising Standards Authority, the industry-funded regulator of all things adverty. Whilst it is generally a force for good, it's pretty weak when it comes to sanctions, but does seem to act fairly and efficiently on behalf of the consumer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This week, the ASA ruled on a company called &lt;a href="http://www.healthspan.co.uk/"&gt;Healthspan Ltd&lt;/a&gt;. Healthspan Ltd are no strangers to ASA rulings, having &lt;a href="http://www.asa.org.uk/ASA-action/Adjudications.aspx?SearchTerms=healthspan#results"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;5&lt;/span&gt; previous complaints&lt;/a&gt; against them upheld for misleading advertising of one sort or another.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It should also be noted that the head office is given as St Peter's Port, Guernsey, which was also, for a while, the address of serial ASA-offender and regular feature of this blog, &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/search?q=intramed"&gt;Intramed&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This time, however, the ASA deemed the complaint unwarranted and it was not upheld. The complainant had felt that words and phrases like "optiflex" and "joint synergex" implied the product being advertised had some efficacy (presumably against arthritis of various forms) and asked whether the claims could be justified. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The ruling from the ASA is intriguing:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;We (ASA) ... noted that "Synergex" was not a word in the English language, and not defined in the context of the ad. We therefore did not consider that the word Synergex implied efficacy, and concluded the ad was not misleading on that point.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, if I can put it this way, as long as you use words that aren't used in the English language (i.e. have a defined meaning) then it's open season. So my ad above talking about "memoriness", "thought-decay" and "idea-cage" would be given the all-clear by the watchdog. It's also worth noting that &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Healthspan had ensured that Optiflex advertising was accompanied by a prominent disclaimer stating "Not clinically proven to optimise flexibility"&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(It's well known within and without the pill industry that &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/search?q=glucosamine"&gt;glucosamine is pretty much a placebo&lt;/a&gt;, but it is a cheap product with a big markup, so continued belief is important for revenues. Everyone knows the game is up, except those people spending their hard-earned cash on a glimmer of hope of release from the grinding and unrelenting pain of arthritis. Classy ethics.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fairness, the ruling is reasonable enough - no-one complained about the Renault Clio's "Va va voom" adverts, even though we all knew what the implication was. (Ironically, the adverts were based around trying to pin down exactly &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;what&lt;/span&gt; va-va-voom meant).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The important thing is to beware of new words and phrases used in adverts to describe products or benfits, where you know what they mean/imply but they don't seem quite right. Ask yourself the question.... why didn't they use the right word? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are they offering some fraudulity with extract of poppycock?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;----------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JDC325 has also covered this on &lt;a href="http://jdc325.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/healthspan-and-the-asa/"&gt;Stuff And Nonsense&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DC has also covered Healthspan and their antics in previous blogposts &lt;a href="http://www.dcscience.net/?p=221"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.dcscience.net/?p=223"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Edited 4/3/11: In a slightly cheeky way, I offered this blogpost to the Pod Delusion, as I thought maybe the format of the advert could be a bit of fun to do in audio. Mr O'Malley kindly agreed and allowed me to take 'prepublished' blog material for the Pod Delusion as a one-off. The script is changed a bit for clarity and for a different audience - extra thanks to @noodlemaz for cracking (dare I say 'sexy'?) voiceover in the Advert and to Beastie for being the voice of the ASA.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0" width="352" height="200" id="embed-352x200" align="middle"&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="false"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="scale" value="exactfit"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://embed.ipadio.com/embed/v1/embed-352x200.swf?callInView=local_20110304003838&amp;channelInView=WEBSITE_USER_3452&amp;phlogId=9216&amp;phonecastId=63573"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="quality" value="high" /&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://embed.ipadio.com/embed/v1/embed-352x200.swf?callInView=local_20110304003838&amp;channelInView=WEBSITE_USER_3452&amp;phlogId=9216&amp;phonecastId=63573" quality="high" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="352" height="200" name="embed-352x200" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" allowFullScreen="false" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" scale="exactfit"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-3432600585069978228?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/3432600585069978228/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/02/brainmax-for-maximising-your-memory.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/3432600585069978228'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/3432600585069978228'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/02/brainmax-for-maximising-your-memory.html' title='BRAINMax - For Maximising your memory health!'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-6680036919991898448</id><published>2011-02-18T13:15:00.009Z</published><updated>2011-02-21T17:36:03.349Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the pod delusion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='podcast'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='qed'/><title type='text'>Pod Delusion Live Recording at #QEDcon</title><content type='html'>&lt;object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0" width="352" height="200" id="embed-352x200" align="middle"&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="false"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="scale" value="exactfit"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://embed.ipadio.com/embed/v1/embed-352x200.swf?callInView=local_59692&amp;channelInView=WEBSITE_USER_3452&amp;phlogId=9216&amp;phonecastId=59692"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="quality" value="high" /&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://embed.ipadio.com/embed/v1/embed-352x200.swf?callInView=local_59692&amp;channelInView=WEBSITE_USER_3452&amp;phlogId=9216&amp;phonecastId=59692" quality="high" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="352" height="200" name="embed-352x200" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" allowFullScreen="false" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" scale="exactfit"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Feb 5th &amp; 6th saw the happening of the first &lt;a href="http://www.qedcon.org/"&gt;QED Conference&lt;/a&gt; in Manchester, run jointly by the &lt;a href="http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/"&gt;Merseyside Skeptic's Society&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://gmskeptics.blogspot.com/"&gt;Greater Manchester Skeptics&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Speakers included Simon Singh, Steve Novella, Jon Ronson, Prof Bruce Hood and many more. I had hoped to be there for the whole event, but unfortunately had to leave early on the Saturday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the bit I was there for, it was an outstanding success, with an excellent vibe, and big congrats to the organisers for running such a positive event.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While I was there, I took part in the live recording of &lt;a href="http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/"&gt;The Pod Delusion&lt;/a&gt;, which you can listen to above or download from your favourite podcast supplier.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the hustle and bustle of event, I managed to lose my script - luckily I'd emailed James O'Malley an early draft and he was able to send it to fellow contributor, Craig Lucas, who put it on his Kindle. As a result, it's not quite as clear or polished as I'd intended, but luckily still seemed to be well-received. You can even hear people seemingly genuinely laughing at some of the jokes, or smiling loudly at the very least. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In case you are interested, I've posted the proper script below which differs in a few places from the recording, mostly to add clarity and context.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you don't regularly listen to The Pod Delusion, subscribe to it and give a few listens - you'll not be disappointed!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Learning Facts - A Brief Pod Delusion Rant&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of things that this new Tory-LibDem coalition have put forward is a return to 1950’s style learning – putting a big stress on LEARNING FACTS - Putting a big stress on teachers as well, of course, most of whom have no interest in ANOTHER BIG GOVERNMENT EDUCATION CHANGE. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Learn more facts! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How many wives did Henry 8th have?      6 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When was the Battle Of Hastings ?       1066 (Although interestingly, did not take place in Hastings)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who came King after Queen Anne?        George 1st.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In reality the questions are dull, the answers prosaic. In fact, as long as we all agree the same answer, it doesn’t really matter and no one gets hurt. &lt;br /&gt;You don’t learn by learning history this way. More relevant is the WHY? Why did Henry 8th have 6 wives. Arguably, to make sure he had a son to maintain his Royal blood line – cue questions  about the  divine right of kings in modern society,  perceived changes in equal rights for men and women, stranglehold of religion in 16th century society,  (Henry ditched the Pope because – as demonstrated by his wish for divorce - he felt the pope had too much jurisdication in secular affairs – how times have changed). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;THAT is interesting and that is why history is important. Not so much the facts but more why the facts are what they are.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Being brought up in a strict protestant house, I ended up learning a lot of bible verses off by heart and even now long-forgotten sections pop back into my conscious after years of hanging around, avoiding being killed off by beer and taking up space that could have been used much more profitably,  like learning Spanish or  memorising that killer recipe for a 3 bean tomato and chilli salsa. (Actually now that I think of it most of the ingredients are in the title)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, we weren’t taught the WHY. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We just learnt and learnt and learnt. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We were asked to parrot it and sometimes we got sweets for it. Whether we had any emotional attachment to the verses through understanding or belief was irrelevant – we could say them on command and that was that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Try this for 9 year old:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have no idea what that means, even now. A ouija board at the top of the Eiffel Tower?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That’s from Ephesians,  if you're asking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.  He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love – beloved let us love one another” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(But not in a gay way, obviously).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Impeccable logic of course – anyone who does not love, does not know God because God is love. So it all depends on the assumption that God is Love. I didn’t learn to ask soon enough Why is God Love? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It’s a ridiculous question. I don’t even think it makes sense, which certainly has implications on the logic of the theology I just quoted. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Teaching people to learn without questioning can lead to some pretty grim situations. Obvious examples are cults – the unquestionable figurehead.  I’ll cut out the next part by just saying Godwin, which will make the point and we can move on. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What about the more insidious examples, the everyday, pedestrian examples? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The news media is often very good at telling us ‘the facts’ but rubbish at telling us the ‘why?’. Look at the recent coverage of Tunisia and Egypt – immediate photos, footage “THIS IS HAPPENING”. But there was so much fact coverage that even with 24 hours rolling news, there wasn’t the time to explain WHY? Why had Tunisia suddenly exploded? Why are the Egyptians so angry?In the case of Tunisia, the media was keener to  tell us how it affected British holidaymakers, rather than tell us why there was  revolution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course the British media is full of examples of facts. But facts presented in such a disjointed way so as to either end up being meaningless, or worse being twisted without context into a false narrative.   What is the press release if not a section of these “facts” which are to be reprinted without question or adding context? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You may remember the story about the female contraceptive implant, Implanon. &lt;br /&gt;600 pregnancies! It’s supposed to be a contraceptive for goodness sake. &lt;br /&gt;What none of the press thought important to ask, was how many “successful” Implanons , i.e. not the no of failures, but the failure rate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tim Harford on Radio4’s More or Less and Ben Goldacre’s Bad Science column in the Guardian gave this story a thorough dressing down, showing that the implant was the most reliable form of contraception and that in context these pregnancies, while unfortunate, were small in number relative to the amount of usage. It’s a numbers game - even small probabilities become realities if the no of events is big enough. There WAS an interesting story to be had about the transfer of responsibility between a pregnancy due to a women not complying with the pill regime and a pregnancy due to a doctor not inserting the implant correctly, but it was difficult to find.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In what was almost a repeat of the Implanon story, the Pod Delusion’s favourite newspaper Daily Mail last month printed a story about Xrays. It claimed in 2009 that 500 people a year in England got the wrong dosage some up to 100 times the recommended amount!  Any clear-headed intelligent person would ask about context. Not so the Daily Mail!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who wants to guess – number of Xrays in England per year? (A number that didn’t appear in the report)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Around 40 million.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That number is from the Care Quality Commission, who also reported the 500 over exposures.  That’s a hit rate of 1 in 80,000 (or 0.00125%) Of course, the CQC look at this to drive down the number of non-compliances and up the quality of care, so monitoring this number is obviously important  but in context, is this really worth the scary headline?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;If the Daily Mail really cared about people getting over-exposure to Xrays, it could put a bit of time in exposing our chiropractic friends, who in turn expose people to Xrays to find subluxations, even though nobody knows what one looks like.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I could go on about recent stories involving ‘craters on Jupiter’ and other such nonsense but I’ll finish with this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course the facts have importance but it is asking the WHY and questioning that produces useful learning rather than saying the right thing to get points.&lt;br /&gt;Michael Gove is reducing the importance of giving kids in schools the encouragement to ask why and as a result is damping that natural urge to Question Explore and Discover. That is the real con.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is Dr*T, ranting for the Pod Delusion live at QEDcon.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-6680036919991898448?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/6680036919991898448/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/02/pod-delusion-live-recording-at-qedcon.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/6680036919991898448'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/6680036919991898448'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2011/02/pod-delusion-live-recording-at-qedcon.html' title='Pod Delusion Live Recording at #QEDcon'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-7958742005774942861</id><published>2010-11-19T08:49:00.006Z</published><updated>2010-11-19T09:02:32.338Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Simon Singh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='libel reform'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chiropractic'/><title type='text'>Bloggers and Libel Law - Sense About Science</title><content type='html'>Sense about Science have released a guide to the libel laws written for bloggers and online journalists, titled &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;"So you’ve had a threatening letter. What can you do?”&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; You can download it for free from the Sense about Science website, &lt;a href="http://www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/PDF/So%20youve%20had%20a%20threatening%20letter.pdf"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; (.pdf).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The background to the document is copied below from the Sense about Science website:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;This guide was prepared following Sense About Science’s recent survey of the impact of the libel laws on online discussion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To coincide with the guide’s publication, Sense About Science is making available a summary of the effects of the English libel laws on bloggers, drawn from cases that have come to attention since the start of the Libel Reform Campaign and from the recent survey of bloggers. The summary identifies the particular ways in which online forums are affected by the current laws, notably:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * the individual and non-professional character of much online writing, and therefore the more pronounced inequality of arms, particularly where people are writing about companies, institutions and products; &lt;br /&gt;    * related to the above, the relative lack of familiarity with libel law and access to advice about handling complaints;&lt;br /&gt;    * the liability of ISPs, leading to material being removed without consultation with authors;&lt;br /&gt;    * and  the vulnerability to legal action arising from the international availability of Internet material, and it being possible to republish old material by downloading it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reform of English libel law has been promised, and if campaigners are successful, then changes that will give better defences to online publishers and writers may come into force in 2012.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This leaflet is certainly not a substitute for legal advice, but it does provide information which other bloggers and writers who have experienced libel threats say they wished they had known at the outset.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The publication of the guide comes on the day that Yahoo!, AOL UK, Mumsnet and the Internet Service Providers’ Association (ISPA) are writing to the Prime Minister calling for urgent reform of our libel laws, and in the week where the summary of the effects of libel law on bloggers has been shared with the Ministry of Justice.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is in conjunction with the blogpost earlier this month &lt;blockquote&gt;"&lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/11/mass-blog-for-libel-reform.html"&gt;Mass Blog for Libel Reform&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;/blockquote&gt; which was headed up by Simon Singh, who was sued by the British Chiropractic Association for an &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/07/beware-spinal-trap-lawyer-friendly.html"&gt;article he wrote in the Guardian&lt;/a&gt; on the lack of evidence for Chiropractic. After much legal wrangling, the BCA eventually withdrew their claim but face legal bills of upwards of £250,000.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, well done Sense about Science for producing this guide (and all the other organisations involved) - I hope I never have to read it.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-7958742005774942861?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/7958742005774942861/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/11/bloggers-and-libel-law-sense-about.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7958742005774942861'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7958742005774942861'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/11/bloggers-and-libel-law-sense-about.html' title='Bloggers and Libel Law - Sense About Science'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-7787519324534390395</id><published>2010-11-14T17:45:00.006Z</published><updated>2010-11-16T21:48:50.414Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sensa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='weight loss'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dr Hirsh'/><title type='text'>Is that your diet I can smell?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/TOAyR3uvkMI/AAAAAAAAAKg/-qKWbOpQBgc/s1600/photo_20895_20100924.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 255px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/TOAyR3uvkMI/AAAAAAAAAKg/-qKWbOpQBgc/s320/photo_20895_20100924.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5539482824264880322" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;If you want to make money from a product for the masses, make it a weightloss aid.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Despite literally squillions of diets available, it appears that there is always room for another one, and the hoards of people, having lost money (but not weight) on a particualr diet, seem more than ready to transfer to the next thing that will present the opportunity of having a slim physique. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Losing weight isn't particularly easy - like most health advice, it broadly falls into "don't eat too much, don't eat crap and take some excercise", and because longlasting results will take 12 months or more, people get disillusioned and wander off looking for a quicker fix to weightloss.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a result there is a market ready and willing to try any new way you can think of to lose weight. It may be a surprise to know that most of these fall into two categories -&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Stuff you already know, packaged in a new way.&lt;br /&gt;2. Stuff that requires will-power - i.e. doesn't do anything.&lt;br /&gt;3. Stuff that will cock up your innards in some way while trying to achieve its purpose.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some are clever enough to fit into two or more of these groups.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've came across an example which hit the main stream media over the last few months, and I'll leave it up to you to decide which category it goes into.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"Crystals Use Smell to trick you into weightloss"&lt;/blockquote&gt; said the &lt;a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8116465/Crystals-use-smell-to-trick-you-into-weight-loss.html"&gt;Telegraph&lt;/a&gt; in Nov 2010. A clear statement for fact, no room for discussion, cut and dried TRUE.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"The smells that help you to slim"&lt;/blockquote&gt; wrote the &lt;a href="http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/120212/The-smells-that-help-you-to-slim-/"&gt;Daily Express&lt;/a&gt; in 2009, less certainly, but still no room for doubt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"Can a spoonful of sprinkles help the weight go down?"&lt;/blockquote&gt; asked the &lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-1206941/Can-spoonful-sprinkles-help-weight-down.html"&gt;Daily Mail&lt;/a&gt; in Aug 2009, offering yet another candidate for &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/07/theory-1-revisited.html"&gt;Dr*T's First Law&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"Smell yourself Well"&lt;/blockquote&gt; offered the &lt;a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/smell-yourself-well-1900475.html"&gt;Independent&lt;/a&gt; in Feb 2010, the headline editor pleasantly missing the point.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Incidentally, these last THREE offerings were all penned by &lt;a href="http://journalisted.com/hugh-wilson#tab-work"&gt;Hugh Wilson&lt;/a&gt; - he seems pretty good at selling dubious 'science' journalism to multiple papers having recently sold the story of how sitting down can make you ill to both the &lt;a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/how-sitting-can-make-you-ill-2078391.html"&gt;Independent&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1301708/Could-sitting-death-Experts-reveal-hours-perched-chairs-having-disastrous-effect-health.html"&gt;Mail&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The nub of the product is that it has a smell/flavour, you sprinkle it on your food and hey-ho the weight the drops off quicker than you can say "calories in needs to be less than calories out".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The product is called Sensa(R), and works on the idea that if you overstimulate your body with smells and flavour, it will thinks it's already full and your appetite will be reduced. You won't even want to touch that piece of crackling that's been sprinkled with something that makes it smell really good and taste even better.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The chap who is flogging this is &lt;a href="http://www.trysensa.com/dr-alan-hirsch.htm"&gt;Dr Alan Hirsh MD &lt;/a&gt; who seems to have &lt;a href="http://www.smellandtaste.org/index.cfm?action=about"&gt;qualifications and publications&lt;/a&gt; aplenty, and is the Director of the Smell &amp; Taste Treatment and Research Foundation in Chicago. Admittedly, this is an organisation he founded, but nonetheless.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As always, the important point is: evidence. What are the claims? How are those claims tested and proved?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.trysensa.com/clinical-study.htm"&gt;website&lt;/a&gt; proudly claims:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;NO OTHER WEIGHT-LOSS PRODUCT HAS SUCH EXTRAORDINARY CLINICAL RESULTS&lt;/blockquote&gt; and a graph showing clearly that the 1436-person clinical trial found that people on the Sensa(R) product lost about 35lb whereas the control group lost 2lb. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is quite a big thing - usually when newspapers pick up a 'science' story, it is centred around a crappy piece of PR puff, with a trial of about 6 people (I'm looking at you, &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/11/new-strange-type-of-quarkery.html"&gt;University of Bath&lt;/a&gt;) but this looks good. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In order to find out more about the trial, I went searching in all the usual places - Cochrane Library, Clinical Trials.gov etc, but couldn't find any reference to the trial. After spending more time on this than I probably should have, I had a lightbulb realisation - it wasn't a clinical &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;trial&lt;/span&gt;, it was a "clinical study". Apparently, clinical studies *sound* like clinical trials, but they're different - from what I can gather - in that the study has not been verified, validated or approved by anyone or body, outside of Hirsch's own establishments. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, perhaps then, despite the lack of clarity of the trial - sorry, *study* - the results may be published somewhere? Surely a website wouldn't claim it had 'extradordinary clinical results' without publishing somewhere? Of course not - that would be underhand, unscientific and very, very naughty. Dr Hirsh doesn't come across as the type of fellow just to run an unregulated, unvalidated, unapproved clinical trial and not publish the results. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.trysensa.com/media/pdf/Abstract_Poster_Use_of_Stimuli_for_Weight_Loss.pdf"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; on his website takes you directly to where the results are published, and he has listed this on his &lt;a href="http://www.smellandtaste.org/index.cfm?action=about"&gt;publication page&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Hirsch, A.R. "Use of gustatory stimuli to facilitate weight loss." ATTD Abstracts, 2008, p. 39.&lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;ATTD Abstracts? Not one I know - a little bit of googling yields that it is an abstract for the Advanced Technologies for Treatments of Diabetes Conference in Prague, Feb 2008. You can find and enjoy his abstract &lt;a href="http://www.kenes.com/attd2008/program/search.asp"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; (put Hirsch into the search box) and, from his website, spend some time cocking your head at &lt;a href="http://www.trysensa.com/media/pdf/Abstract_Poster_Use_of_Stimuli_for_Weight_Loss.pdf"&gt;the poster&lt;/a&gt; he presented (pdf).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just to clarify this, presenting an abstract at a conference is pretty much open for anyone to do. I could make a copy of the &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Fallen Madonna With The Big Boobies&lt;/span&gt; by Van Klump and articulate how it can be used to cure genital warts, and may well have my abstract accepted. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(This is not to do with low standards, but more with allowing freedom of ideas. I accept my warts cure has limited scientific plausability but that's beside the point.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So when he says he has 'published', he is not being untruthful, more he is (consciously or otherwise) conflating different levels of evidence - one (the abstract) which requires no questioning, no approvals, no testing, no explaining, no demonstration of data, no minimum levels of scientific methodology to name a few, and two (peer-review publishing) which requires many, if not all those things. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(As I repeat often, peer-review is still open to fatal flaws, but it's certainly better than nothing)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So someone has come up with a product, which contains ingredients currently used in food (so no need for pharma-style regulation), has managed to run an uncritical PR-campaign which has been accepted by many of UK's media outlets (with Hugh Wilson pushing his stories through), without ever having had to present even the slightest snippet of reasonable published evidence, despite claiming to have the most "extraordinary clinical results" of any weight loss aid.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How on earth can the system be so screwed up as to allow this to happen? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As far as a product that is sprinkled on food to overstimulate the senses to aid weight loss, I'm pretty sure I know what it smells of.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Belated h/t to @kashfarooq) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Photo by &lt;a href="http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/view_photog.php?photogid=1408"&gt;Boaz Yiftach&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-7787519324534390395?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/7787519324534390395/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/11/is-that-your-diet-i-can-smell.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7787519324534390395'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7787519324534390395'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/11/is-that-your-diet-i-can-smell.html' title='Is that your diet I can smell?'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/TOAyR3uvkMI/AAAAAAAAAKg/-qKWbOpQBgc/s72-c/photo_20895_20100924.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-8502608945153752529</id><published>2010-11-10T16:11:00.003Z</published><updated>2010-11-10T16:22:18.075Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Simon Singh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='libel reform'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='STrange Quarks'/><title type='text'>Mass Blog For Libel Reform</title><content type='html'>Following on from Simon Singh's interview in the new Strange Quarks &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/11/new-strange-type-of-quarkery.html"&gt;podcast&lt;/a&gt; (download from iTunes &lt;a href="http://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/strange-quarks-podcast-on/id402152668"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;), this blog is taking part in the Mass Blog for Libel Reform - here is Simon to explain:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“This week is the first anniversary of the report Free Speech is Not for Sale, which highlighted the oppressive nature of English libel law. In short, the law is extremely hostile to writers, while being unreasonably friendly towards powerful corporations and individuals who want to silence critics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The English libel law is particularly dangerous for bloggers, who are generally not backed by publishers, and who can end up being sued in London regardless of where the blog was posted. The internet allows bloggers to reach a global audience, but it also allows the High Court in London to have a global reach.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can read more about the peculiar and grossly unfair nature of English libel law at the website of the &lt;a href="http://www.libelreform.org/"&gt;Libel Reform Campaign&lt;/a&gt;. You will see that the campaign is not calling for the removal of libel law, but for a libel law that is fair and which would allow writers a reasonable opportunity to express their opinion and then defend it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The good news is that the British Government has made a commitment to draft a bill that will reform libel, but it is essential that bloggers and their readers send a strong signal to politicians so that they follow through on this promise. You can do this by joining me and over 50,000 others who have signed the libel reform petition at&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.libelreform.org/sign"&gt;www.libelreform.org/sign&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remember, you can sign the petition whatever your nationality and wherever you live. Indeed, signatories from overseas remind British politicians that the English libel law is out of step with the rest of the free world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you have already signed the petition, then please encourage friends, family and colleagues to sign up. Moreover, if you have your own blog, you can join hundreds of other bloggers by posting this blog on your own site. There is a real chance that bloggers could help change the most censorious libel law in the democratic world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We must speak out to defend free speech. Please sign the petition for libel reform at &lt;a href="http://www.libelreform.org/sign"&gt;www.libelreform.org/sign&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-8502608945153752529?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/8502608945153752529/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/11/mass-blog-for-libel-reform.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/8502608945153752529'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/8502608945153752529'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/11/mass-blog-for-libel-reform.html' title='Mass Blog For Libel Reform'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-7696803754685111240</id><published>2010-11-02T22:13:00.006Z</published><updated>2010-11-02T23:08:41.117Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chiropractic. Simon Singh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Eczema'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='STrange Quarks'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Guardian'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='podcast'/><title type='text'>A new strange type of Quarkery.</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://strangequarks.net/"&gt;Strange Quarks&lt;/a&gt; is a new podcast that has entered the downloadosphere looking at the Ups and Downs of science-based politics in the UK, from the Top of science to the bottom of pseudoscience, with two charming hosts; &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/the-lay-scientist/2010/nov/01/1?CMP=twt_gu"&gt;Martin Robbins&lt;/a&gt; off of the Guardian, and &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/#!/mrmmarsh"&gt;Michael Marshall&lt;/a&gt; off of Righteous Indignation, Skeptics with a K, Inkredulous and co-organiser of next year's &lt;a href="http://www.qedcon.org/"&gt;QED conference&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Martin kindly asked me to do a report for the first episode, which also features &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Singh"&gt;Simon Singh&lt;/a&gt; (whose battle against being sued for libel by the British Chiropractic Association &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/search?q=simon+singh"&gt;was covered on this blog&lt;/a&gt;) and &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/#!/simon_perry"&gt;Simon Perry&lt;/a&gt;, a &lt;a href="http://adventuresinnonsense.blogspot.com/2009/11/cnhc-wishes-to-place-on-formal-record.html"&gt;troublemaker&lt;/a&gt; for the legislators of nonsense.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My own report is in there too, and it is probably the campest piece of overacting ever to be seen by this blog. (To be mentioned on the &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/the-lay-scientist/2010/nov/01/1?CMP=twt_gu"&gt;Guardian Online website&lt;/a&gt; made it all worth it....)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The podcast is produced in conjuction with &lt;a href="http://www.pulse-project.org/"&gt;Pulse Project&lt;/a&gt; and the .mp3 can be downloaded from their website &lt;a href="http://pulse-project.org/sites/default/files/podcast/SQ_S01E01_2_1.mp3"&gt;here &lt;/a&gt;or you could wait and get it from iTunes (should be up in a few days).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For those of you who prefer their content readable with links, rather than audible, here is a transcript of the report, which may be less fun without my squeaky mixed-up regional accent and intonations. Each to their own :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Who is responsible for responsible science journalism? An itchy case study.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Earlier this year, Professor Dorothy Bishop from the University of Oxford &lt;a href="http://deevybee.blogspot.com/2010/06/orwellian-prize-for-journalistic.html"&gt;announced that she was launching&lt;/a&gt; a new prize for science journalism which she called the Orwellian Prize for Journalistic Misrepresentation. It would be awarded annually to the English-language national newspaper that has published the most inaccurate report of a piece of academic work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Why is science reporting in the media so rubbish?” you’ll probably have heard someone ask. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“That’s because scientists are notoriously bad at engaging the public,“ will no doubt come the media-savvy reply.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“They tend to talk in the language of dry research papers because publication numbers are all that matters”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“But journalists are so lazy they just print any old nonsense and rarely have any real comprehension of the science or its impacts”, someone will chirp, probably a scientist.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In reality, all of that and more is true, and a story which was run recently by a number major news outlets in the UK is perhaps a pretty good case study.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“&lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1321559/Moisturiser-aqueous-cream-BP-cream-make-eczema-worse.html"&gt;The cure with a sting: Eczema cream meant to soothe 'makes skin WORSE&lt;/a&gt;” – panicked the Daily Mail, the word WORSE was in capitals for extra effect. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“&lt;a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/moisturisers-can-aggravate-eczema-2110282.html"&gt;Moisturisers can aggravate Eczema&lt;/a&gt;” warned the Independent. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eczema is extremely common and can be pretty tortuous, so this news will be of interest to millions of people. Could this eczema cream really be making eczema worse?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According the articles, the research had been carried out at the Pharmacy and Pharmacology dept of the University of Bath and published in the British Journal of Dermatology. A respectable institution publishing in a respectable journal – any wonder this story was big. The University had put out a Press Release about the research and had kindly put it on its website, with the headline &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“&lt;a href="http://www.bath.ac.uk/news/2010/10/18/eczema/"&gt;Creams used to treat eczema could make it worse&lt;/a&gt;”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The media outlets weren’t exaggerating – here it is from the horse’s mouth (or more accurately the horse’s owner’s mouth, if you want to stretch the metaphor beyond it’s elastic limit)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Incidentally a search for that exact phrase “Creams used to treat eczema could make it worse” comes up over 5000 hits in a &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Creams+used+to+treat+eczema+could+make+it+worse%22&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&amp;client=firefox-a"&gt;google search&lt;/a&gt;, mostly syndicated news outlets. Given the media coverage of this story, this research must be top drawer, watertight stuff. I mean, the researchers wouldn’t allow their university to risk both parties’ reputations by putting out a press release which gets global coverage and could impact the treatment regime of millions of eczema sufferers, but was based on unreplicated, duff research? Would they? Can you hear an impending air of disappointment in my voice?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The cream in question is Aqueous Cream BP, a cheap emollient – which is a substance that soothes or softens the skin. It is a light  moisturiser which helps stop the outer skin layer from drying out and becoming itchy and flaky. It’s one of the main treatments for general eczema, along with not scratching, avoiding environmental triggers and using steroid cream against more aggressive flare-ups. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The BP in Aqueous Cream BP means it is a British Pharmacopiea standard and anyone selling it must make it to the standard recipe. It’s basically an emulsion of paraffin and water, with some preservative. The emulsion is made using an ingredient called SLS a cheap and cheerful surfactant used in myriad household products, although SLS can be a problem as  sensitivity to it is well known and can itself cause reactions which exacerbate the eczema.  So perhaps this is why the “Eczema cream can make eczema worse”?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It would be valuable to know what the sensitivity of eczema sufferers is to this workhorse treatment, and given the numbers of people with eczema, it should be cheap and easy to run a test on a large random bunch of healthy-skinned and eczema sufferers, giving them either Aqueous Cream BP or an SLS free equivalent. Any questions?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let’s have a look at the &lt;a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2133.2010.09954.x/abstract"&gt;actual published research&lt;/a&gt; – it turns out the researchers in question Tsang and Guy didn’t quite do that:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First of all, rather than testing a large bunch of people there were 6 participants.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And they were all women. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And they were all aged 20 – 36 years of age. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now perhaps in idle moment of fanciful daydreaming, I like to think that the population of the UK is entirely made up of 20 – 36 year old women and me, but sadly it isn’t. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So this sample is a long way from being representative, quite aside from the point that any study regardless of how rigourous, if done in 6 people is probably not worth a hill of eczema flakes on its own. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what about the ratio of healthy-skinned people to eczema-sufferers on the trial?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well they didn’t treat anyone with eczema, they only tested the cream on people with healthy skin. I hope I don’t need to embarrass both of us here by stating the gigantic flaw in research that doesn’t actually test the thing against the thing that you’re claiming it makes worse, but somehow that passed the researchers by.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The researchers also seemed to be doing funny things with the statistics. Each of the 6 women did the same test, twice on each forearm – so four results per person. They then claimed this meant their sample size was 6 times 4 - 24. Still not a large enough sample to carry much weight but that’s not the point. It’s like trying to find out people’s opinions and rather than asking 24 people, asking 6 people 4 times. The accuracy of the individual result should be better, but the sample size won’t change from 6. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So as a quick summary of the research, they concluded that SLS, an ingredient they didn’t control for, can make eczema, a condition they didn’t test on, worse in the population, despite only testing it in an extremely small number of young women.&lt;br /&gt;To me , this is the worst kind of research – it’s trying to answer a question it didn’t ask, makes a very definite conclusion despite being incredibly weakly powered, and in actual fact doesn’t add any real knowledge to issue of whether of SLS is a problem in Aqueous Cream.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So the scientists did the research and came to a conclusion which was perhaps bolstered in order to make it to publication, the University took the conclusion and passed it through a media-friendlifier which perhaps bolstered it a bit more , the media outlets then passed it through a science-mangle which tends to bolster claims and suddenly 5000 websites around the world are informing their readers that the cream your doctor is prescribing for your eczema is making it worse! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OMG.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So to go back to Professor Bishop’s award for Journalistic Misrepresentation mentioned at the beginning – I don’t know who it would go to: The newspapers, The Journal, The University or the scientists themselves.&lt;br /&gt;-------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With thanks to &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/#!/jobrodie"&gt;@JoBrodie&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/#!/vfriendlylion"&gt;@friendlylion&lt;/a&gt;, Sonya C, Stuart R &amp; Peter for assistance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-7696803754685111240?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/7696803754685111240/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/11/new-strange-type-of-quarkery.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7696803754685111240'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7696803754685111240'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/11/new-strange-type-of-quarkery.html' title='A new strange type of Quarkery.'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-891454013638376852</id><published>2010-10-12T20:07:00.008+01:00</published><updated>2010-10-13T13:08:48.914+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homeopath'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homeopathy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MHRA'/><title type='text'>Can you help the MHRA make sense of UK homeopathy advertising?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/TLTTKJHeRnI/AAAAAAAAAKY/jfTRzbpun_A/s1600/confusion.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 282px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/TLTTKJHeRnI/AAAAAAAAAKY/jfTRzbpun_A/s320/confusion.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5527274813889857138" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In August 2009 (that's 1 year and 2 months ago), a complaint seen by this blog went to the Medicines Healthcare Products and Regulatory Agency (MHRA) regarding a number of websites who were breaching the &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/homeopathy-regulation-and-mhra.html"&gt;UK National Rules&lt;/a&gt; on homeopathic product advertising. (You may or may not know that there are a very limited number of homeopathic products which are &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/homeopathy-regulation-and-mhra.html"&gt;allowed to claim benefits&lt;/a&gt; against therapeutic indications).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In some cases, the MHRA took action, with &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/10/mhra-force-boots-to-remove-homeopathic.html"&gt;Boots&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/03/ha-ha-nelsons-natural-world-forced-to.html"&gt;Nelson's&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://backupurl.com/vmvmt6"&gt;Neal's Yard&lt;/a&gt; and Holland &amp;amp; Barrett all being forced to remove therapeutic indications from their websites.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the three months that followed, more complaints went in with little response, except an email in December from MRHA last year to say:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;We are currently working on producing additional advertising guidance specifically for homeopathic products.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; ...followed by the sound of something being kicked into the long grass.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today, a full year after the majority of complaints went to the MHRA, they have produced a draft document, which will be on their website soon, but you can download from &lt;a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?12weo65p5av7o4i"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Perhaps I'm being harsh, but doesn't read like it has been worked on for a year, more like a week.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To recap briefly, there a three homeopathic registration schemes;&lt;br /&gt;1. PLRs - these registrations ran from 1971 to 1991 and allow products to have therapeutic indications, and are *not* covered by advertising regulations (see later), according to Medicines (Labelling and Advertising to the Public) Regulations 1978 (SI 1978/41).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Simplified scheme (HR license) - these ran from 1992 to 2006, and mean that homeopathic products could be licensed, but with no therapeutic indications.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. National Rules Scheme - this is how new licenses are granted and may include therapeutic indication, but no efficacy needs to be demonstrated. It is 'hoped' that manufacturers holding PLRs will update them to NR licenses. (Fat chance, as the PLRs allow the manufacturers to claim all sorts of benefits according to the original license).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So you can see why there is some 'guidance' needed on the advertising.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This leads to all sorts of silly shenanigans - for example, &lt;a href="http://www.nelsonsnaturalworld.com/en-gb/uk/our-brands/nelsons-homeopathy/nelsons-combination-remedies/coldenza/"&gt;Nelson's Coldenza&lt;/a&gt;, a homeopathic remedy for the relief of the symptoms of cold and flu, contains Gelsemium and has a PLR license, so can promote its therapeutic indications. &lt;a href="http://www.nelsonsnaturalworld.com/en-gb/uk/our-brands/nelsons-homeopathy/nelsons-clikpaks/gelsemium/"&gt;Nelson's Homeopathic Gelsemium&lt;/a&gt; however, has a modern HR license, and so can't provide any indication for what it might be used for.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nothing to do with evidence or efficacy, just a quirk of silly legislation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The myriad complaints that were provided to the MHRA which helped prompt this document, were made because of the UK legislation and this is reiterated:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Only the information included on the product labelling registered with the MHRA, listed in Schedule 5 of the Regulations, may be included in advertisements for the product. &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;No mention of a specific indication or therapeutic claims may be made&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then, on top of page 4:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;These restrictions apply equally to advertising on the internet. Product information, including sales material and any online purchase facility, may only be provided for licensed products.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So the MHRA are consulting on a document which has taken them over a year to form, which states that the some of the homeopathic products on sale must not include therapeutic indications and that these rules cover the internet. It also says that some may include therapeutic information, but give no idea as to which are allowed and which aren't. For instance (although this needs checking), Weleda Sulphur 30c can be sold with the indication for skin irritation, whereas Nelsons ClikPak Sulphur 30c can't. Both exactly the same product, i.e. sugar.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This means that &lt;a href="http://www.althealth.co.uk/product/details/nelsons/sulphur-30c-1/84-tabs/"&gt;AltHealth&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.worldwideshoppingmall.co.uk/body-soul/Sulphur.asp"&gt;WWSM&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.chemistdirect.co.uk/nelsons-6c-sulphur-pillules-clikpak_1_5301.html"&gt;ChemistDirect&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.expressbeauty.co.uk/nelsons-6c-sulphur-pillules-clikpak_1_5301.html"&gt;Express Beauty&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.garden.co.uk/php/showProducts.php?plu=0333708"&gt;Garden.co.uk&lt;/a&gt; to name a small few amongst the sea of UK homeopathic vendors are not adhering to the UK regulations and therefore appear to be breaking the law.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The MHRA don't seem too interested in dealing with them. Luckily, these products have no effect, and possibly the worst that could happen is that someone delays getting real medicine, but I can't imagine the MHRA being this lackadaisical about medicinal products that actually have an effect.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Annex 1B reminds us that &lt;blockquote&gt;"Manufacturers and suppliers must not provide free sample(s) of a homeopathic product to any member of the public."&lt;/blockquote&gt; Who on earth would do a thing like that? *cough* &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/12/napiers-homeopathy-treating-individual.html"&gt;Napiers of Edinburgh&lt;/a&gt; *cough*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Annex 1C of the document gives a recap of what Regulation 9 states as the rules of advertising (although these don't apply to the products with PLRs).&lt;br /&gt;Regulation 9 provides that advertising to the public must not:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;• give the impression that a medical consultation or surgical operation is unnecessary, in particular by offering a diagnosis or by suggesting treatment by post, FAX or telephone;&lt;br /&gt;• suggest that the effects of taking the medicinal product are guaranteed, are unaccompanied by side effects or are better than, or equivalent to, those of another identifiable treatment or medicinal product;&lt;br /&gt;• suggest that health can be enhanced by taking the medicinal product;&lt;br /&gt;• suggest that health could be affected by not taking the medicinal product;&lt;br /&gt;• be directed exclusively or principally at children;&lt;br /&gt;• refer to a recommendation by scientists, health professionals or persons who because of their celebrity, could encourage the consumption of medicinal products;&lt;br /&gt;• suggest that the medicinal product is a foodstuff, cosmetic or other consumer product;&lt;br /&gt;• suggest that the safety or efficacy of the product is due to the fact that it is natural;&lt;br /&gt;• might, by a description or detailed representation of a case history, lead to erroneous self-diagnosis;&lt;br /&gt;• refer, in improper, alarming or misleading terms, to claims of recovery;&lt;br /&gt;• use, in improper, alarming or misleading terms, pictorial representations of changes in the human body caused by disease or injury, or of the action of a medicinal product on the human body or parts of it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Feel free to play "Regulation 9 Bingo" on your homeopathy site of choice, but remember that these regulations apply on one website but not another, they can even apply and not apply in the same shop.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To wrap this rather rambly and confusing post, the guidance document does provide some clarity on a very confusing and pretty laughable piece of legislation. With regards to a response, I think they could sharpen it up a bit and provide more information, but it's obvious that they are trying to disentangle a hairball, when it's clear that a more fundamental look at the legislation is needed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll be giving them my view, and I'm sure they'd be very keen to hear yours.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(H/t to &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/#!/zeno001"&gt;@zeno001&lt;/a&gt; &amp; &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/#!/landtimforgot"&gt;@landtimforgot&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-891454013638376852?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/891454013638376852/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/10/can-you-help-mhra-make-sense-of-uk.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/891454013638376852'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/891454013638376852'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/10/can-you-help-mhra-make-sense-of-uk.html' title='Can you help the MHRA make sense of UK homeopathy advertising?'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/TLTTKJHeRnI/AAAAAAAAAKY/jfTRzbpun_A/s72-c/confusion.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-2412847602427036283</id><published>2010-08-18T07:40:00.013+01:00</published><updated>2010-08-18T18:50:24.258+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rhys Morgan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MMS'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jim Humble'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chemistry'/><title type='text'>BLEACH: Chemistry v English (or "More Mineral Miracle Solution")</title><content type='html'>The story of 15-year-old Rhys Morgan's experience on a forum when he posted an FDA press release urging people to stop using Jim Humble's Miracle Mineral Solution is well documented - amongst others there is &lt;a href="http://thewelshboyo.wordpress.com/"&gt;Rhys' own blog&lt;/a&gt; of course, and &lt;a href="http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2010/08/bleachgate-or-mineral-miracle-solution.html"&gt;LizDitz&lt;/a&gt; provides a timeline history. The interview I did with Rhys for &lt;a href="http://www.poddelusion.co.uk"&gt;The Pod Delusion&lt;/a&gt;, which sets out the story and some of the human interest can be found &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/08/pod-delusion-mineral-miracle-solution.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My minor involvement started fairly early on in media terms, but very late in Twitter terms! I had seen the hastag #bleachgate on Twitter and also references to 'MMS' and 'drinking bleach'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a chemist by trade who has (hopefully) gained some knowledge over the years, it sounded to me like someone was channelling the People's Medical Journal, aka The Daily Mail. Would people *really* be told to drink bleach for ailments, and worse still, actually do it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After a bit of Googling, the story became clear, and indeed some hype and hyperbole had crept into what was otherwise a fascinating story. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wanted to get a few thoughts (and maybe some chemistry....) into a blogpost to try and put things into perspective. This is not meant to piss on anyone's parade, but just to hopefully give some explanation as to how a story like this can evolve, and how it can suffer from distortion in the hands of the 'skeptic community' (ugh) just like any media outlet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Firstly, a bit of chemistry and nomenclature (chemical names).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like all bulk industrial chemicals, it has to start somewhere easy and reletavily abundant, in this case salt. &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_chloride"&gt;Sodium Chloride&lt;/a&gt; (NaCl) is our friend - table salt, sea salt, rock salt, whatever is prety much all salt and necessary for us to live.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The salt is electrolysed to form &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_chlorate"&gt;Sodium Chlorate &lt;/a&gt;(NaClO&lt;sub&gt;3&lt;/sub&gt;), which is a tremendously good weedkiller. 'Good' in this case meaning 'indiscriminate and powerful'. It was banned in EU in 2009, as its risk to humans outweighs its usefulness as a weedkiller, but it is still used extensively outside the EU due to its low cost.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To make &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_chlorite"&gt;sodium chlorite&lt;/a&gt; (NaClO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt; or Miracle Mineral Solution as it is also called), Sodium Chlorate is reduced in a strong acid using a reducing agent (e.g. sulphur dioxide) to form Chlorine Dioxide (ClO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt;). ClO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt; is explosive in &gt;10% in air and difficult to transport, and so it is stablised making the solution alkaline and reducing the ClO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt; with hydrogen peroxide to make Sodium Chlorite.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So there is the manufacturing process - sodium chloride -&gt; sodium chlorate -&gt; chlorine dioxide -&gt; sodium chlorite.&lt;br /&gt;The four products are very similar in structure, yet have completely different characteristics ranging from being necessary for life to being very toxic.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The websites selling MMS weren't advocating ingesting MMS (Sodium Chlorite). They were directing the user to mix it 1:1 with an acid (usually citric acid or similar) to form Chlorine Dioxide (ClO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt;). (Acidification to produce ClO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt; is the standard industry practice for this product when it is used in cooling towers and industrial water systems as it is the ClO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt; that is effective against slimes, moulds and bacteria living in the water supply, but as stated above, transport of ClO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt; is difficult and dangerous, so Sodium Chlorite is transported to the site and acidified later).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what about bleach? Bleach (as in household bleach for toilets) is &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_hypochlorite"&gt;Sodium Hypochlorite&lt;/a&gt; (NaOCl) made from the electrolysis of chlorine in brine. As shown above, these chemicals can look and sound similar, but have completely different characteristics. So when people use #bleachgate, they are (in my view, uninformedly) talking about Household Bleach (NaOCl) and not MMS, (NaClO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt;). Part of this is undoubtedly part of the Twitter hashtag thing of being able to encapsulate a story in as few precious characters as possible, but IMHO, the end result was a tabloid affair, that I would have railed against had it been in any of the main stream media outlets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So where did the 'bleach' meme come from? The &lt;a href="http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/SafetyAlertsforHumanMedicalProducts/ucm220756.htm"&gt;FDA press release&lt;/a&gt; is the answer - it describes the product as "an industrial bleach" and "a potent bleach used for stripping textiles". (I have no idea what stripping textiles is). The FDA is correct is saying it is *a* bleach, but that's not the same as saying it is 'bleach', because bleach already means something in people's minds and they use it as a pretty potent chemical for cleaning loos. For instance, everyone knows that lemon juice can bleach your hair - go out in the sun with lemon juice in your hair and it will bleach. It is *a* bleach - I should be able to drink some quite happily without being accused of 'drinking bleach'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And what about the 'drinking' part? The websites advocate 'a few drops' - Jim Humble's &lt;a href="http://www.jimhumble.biz/biz-cancer-stage4.htm"&gt;own website&lt;/a&gt; states:&lt;blockquote&gt;Begin with taking one drop of MMS each hour for at least 10 hours a day. The drop, of course, must be activated with 5 drops of lemon juice or 10% citric acid. You wait 3 minutes and then add 1/3 glass of water or juice and drink that. Do this every hour for 10 hours straight each day&lt;/blockquote&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So clearly 'drinking bleach' is not what is being advocated and not what Jim Humble (the supposed MMS guru) has divined - because it is neither being drunk nor is it bleach.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What about the concentration of ClO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt; in the final dose? How does that compare with FDA guidelines? Time is not allowing me to do this as accurately as I'd like, so there may be mistakes in here (please correct them if you spot them).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;MMS is sold as a 28% solution - I'm going to assume this is by weight, i.e. 28 g in 100 g of solution, I'm also going to assume the density of the solution = 1 g/cm&lt;sup&gt;3&lt;/sup&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The users are told to use citric acid (in excess, so the amount doesn't matter) to produce the ClO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt; – citric acid is a strong enough acid to do this. 28 g of NaClO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt; in 100 ml is 0.25 mol (RMM=110), which means there is 2.5 mmol in 1cm&lt;sup&gt;3&lt;/sup&gt;. Assume 20 drops in 1 cm&lt;sup&gt;3&lt;/sup&gt; (I think this is standard), which means each time you take the MMS you are getting 0.125 mmol of NaClO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt; and hence the same of ClO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt;. This is then added to 1/3 glass of water or juice (I'm assuming that's 100ml, so you have a solution of 0.125 mmol of ClO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt; in 100 ml, or 4.69 mg in 100 ml, or indeed, 46.9 mg/l. Compare this with the FDA limit of 0.8 mg/l and you'll see that Jim Humble is recommending about 60 times the FDA limit, and that this is to be taken every hour for 10 hours.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The dose maketh the poison" as someone wise and important pointed out. Despite the fact that most people reading this blog have ingested ClO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt; at some point (swimming pools, drinking water etc) it is still a completely crazy situation where someone is suggesting taking ClO&lt;sub&gt;2&lt;/sub&gt; in the form prescribed by Jim Humble. This is out and out quackery at its highest level - a huge amount of risk and absolutely no reward possible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The story of Rhys' treatment on the Crohn's Forum website is indicative how alt-med react when presented with scientific facts, and that this is a product which the ASA, MHRA, and Trading Standards should all be made aware of - I can't really imagine it being banned, but at least controlled somehow and the people making the nonsense claims given a penalty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So in my view, the story is fascinating, from lots of angles, but most importantly the complaints are valid and worthwhile, even if somewhere along the way, the Twitterati hyped the story to the point where it might have been quite at home in the Daily Mail.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-2412847602427036283?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/2412847602427036283/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/08/bleach-chemistry-v-english-or-more.html#comment-form' title='21 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/2412847602427036283'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/2412847602427036283'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/08/bleach-chemistry-v-english-or-more.html' title='BLEACH: Chemistry v English (or &quot;More Mineral Miracle Solution&quot;)'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>21</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-3473504629215063568</id><published>2010-08-13T08:50:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2010-08-13T14:37:33.355+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rhys Morgan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the pod delusion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MMS'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sodium chlorite'/><title type='text'>Pod Delusion: Miracle Mineral Solution</title><content type='html'>Here's this week's episode of the Pod Delusion, which contains a short interview I did with &lt;a href="http://thewelshboyo.wordpress.com/2010/08/10/bleachgate/"&gt;Rhys Morgan&lt;/a&gt;, who got thrown off the Crohn's Forum website for posting an FDA Warning about a product called Miracle Mineral Solution which had been promoted as a suitable treatment for Crohn's diseases on the site.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0" width="352" height="200" id="embed-352x200" align="middle" title="Ipadio Audio Player" &gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="false"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.ipadio.com/embed/v1/embed-352x200.swf?phlogId=9216&amp;phonecastId=35552&amp;channelInView=WEBSITE_USER_3452&amp;callInView=local_35552"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="scale" value="exactfit" /&gt;&lt;param name="quality" value="high" /&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.ipadio.com/embed/v1/embed-352x200.swf?phlogId=9216&amp;phonecastId=35552&amp;channelInView=WEBSITE_USER_3452&amp;callInView=local_35552" quality="high" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="352" height="200" name="embed-352x200" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="always" allowFullScreen="false" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" scale="exactfit"  /&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can read more about the story at &lt;a href="http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=6430"&gt;Science Based Medicine&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://noodlemaz.wordpress.com/tag/mms/"&gt;NoodleMaz&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://podblack.com/2010/08/rhys-morgan-on-pseudoscience-and-crohns-disease/"&gt;PodBlack&lt;/a&gt; (and lots of others) and follow Rhys' story on his own blog at &lt;a href="http://thewelshboyo.wordpress.com/2010/08/10/bleachgate/"&gt;TheWelshBoyo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(I think it's worth mentioning, James O'Malley kindly upgraded my humble PhD to that of a medic on the podcast - I'm not a medic &amp; wouldn't want to suggest that I am.)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-3473504629215063568?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/3473504629215063568/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/08/pod-delusion-mineral-miracle-solution.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/3473504629215063568'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/3473504629215063568'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/08/pod-delusion-mineral-miracle-solution.html' title='Pod Delusion: Miracle Mineral Solution'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-7115065144972219365</id><published>2010-06-20T20:59:00.003+01:00</published><updated>2010-06-20T21:14:23.836+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='honey'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='life mel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bees'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Daily Telegraph'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Just SKeptics'/><title type='text'>Just Skeptics - Episode 5 - Research, media and beeeees</title><content type='html'>Episode 5 of Just Skeptics can be downloaded from &lt;a href="http://justskeptics.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=625064"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; - this is a relatively new offering from &lt;a href="http://gmskeptics.blogspot.com/"&gt;Greater Manchester Skeptics &lt;/a&gt;, and has yours truly as guest host, blethering away on this and that, but also getting a bee in my bonnet about dubious research, on the section they call The Soapbox.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You are free to download the podcast from the link above, or in case you prefer your Soapbox in word form, here is the transcript:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;I have a number of soapboxes, which come out from time on time on different matters. In a way, that was why I started writing my blog, Thinking Is Dangerous. ( Shameless plugging is not something I object to)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My major blood-pressure raiser is to do with research.  Not any research, a specific kind of research. The sort of research that allows a journalist to write an article on it, but completely overstate or invent the results with the result of a grossly ill-informed public.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’m not talking about the crazy boffins that have come up with equation for sexiest walk or the equation for the perfect Christmas dinner – they are just empty PR puffery; easy to point out and ridicule, and apart from eroding the public’s trust in science, do little damage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No, I’m talking about the more insidious research. The little paper in the little journal with the BIG press release, that fools proper journalists – sometimes even the specialist science ones. The result is zero advancement in the knowledge, but a home win for misinformation of the public.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These are the stories where you have to go back to the original paper, and then compare it to what has come out of the science-mangler (every good news room has one). The result is usually a story with an attention-grabbing headline and narrative, all presented as fact and wonder.  In some cases, but not all, the puppet-strings of PR can be seen in the shadows (usually paragraph 4) but often even these are fine and subtle, giving the impression that the marionette story is alive, dancing by virtue of its own newsworthiness. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me give you a few examples.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I keep bees. I own one of the estimated 80,000 beehives currently in the UK.&lt;br /&gt;Bees are incredibly fascinating animals. Everything they do is interesting –  for instance, They are a matriarchal society - all the worker bees are female and can sting. As the sting is a modified egg-laying organ, the male bees – or drones – can’t sting. The lucky drones manage to mate with a virgin queen, only to die quickly after as their penis and abdomen is ripped out after sex. The unlucky ones are kicked out of the hive in Autumn as they are a drain on valuable winter resources,  and so become bird food. A vision of the future, laydeez? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, the bees provide mainly honey, as well as some wax, a sticky resin called propolis which the bees use to make their hive wind and waterproof and a few other smaller products. All of these products have a value and so they get marketed. And this is where things get interesting. &lt;br /&gt;For two reasons;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Firstly, Bees and honey are a marketeer’s dream: a natural product with a heritage that goes back thousands of years (Judges Chapter 14 in the Biblical Old Testament tells the story of Gideon eating honey that he found in a lion’s carcass – you should read it, he goes on to murder 30 people and gives his wife to his best mate a week after the wedding – surely a sound moral tale if ever there was one?). Sorry, I digress again. Honey is a natural product with a long heritage, it is sweet, tasty, has antimicrobial properties due to the high sugar-low water content (that’s why honey never goes off, or mouldy) and has a reputation for curing all manner of ailments. &lt;br /&gt;Secondly, the apocryphal quote from Albert Einstein saying that if the bee was to disappear from the earth, mankind would have less than four years to live have elevated bees to a bellweather status where everyone wants to show that their personal antichrist is what’s killing the bees (Einstein probably didn’t make the statement and it’s probably not true, but enough people think it is for it to make good copy).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So we have the natural cure all on one hand, and the apocalypse cause on the other.  I’ll briefly give you an example of each.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Firstly, the life-giving curing properties of honey. Example: Life Mel Honey. An Israeli honey on sale in health food shops (and indeed Harrods!). The UK website is very restricted in what it claims – teh Cancer Act 1939 ensures that’s the case, but of course testamonials are different. A quick search on the Daily Mail website (a standard place for this type of drivel) reveals a testimonial from a poor chap who found Life Mel helped him through his chemotherapy and his cancer. The connection between honey and cancer cures is made.  Next testimonial? Oh, look Kylie Minogue buys it from Harrod’s. The connection to cancer is made from previous articles and in the reader’s head, not on the page. Very cute. Of course it is clinically proven to help with chemotherapy – the webpage links to a study published in 2006, consisting of a test, where all 30 participants were given the honey (small sample, no placebo, no blinding) and as a result showed it helped patients avoid neutropenia, a complication of chemotherapy. In 2008 I spoke to David Fox, MD of HolyWell Health the main importers of Life Mel honey into the UK, who assured me that a secondary large scale trial would be published imminently and will no doubt show its magical effects. No research has been since been published, that I’m aware of. But that doesn’t matter, it already has a name for itself, with Kylie leading the charge.  Those going through the tough times of chemotherapy are encouraged to relieve themselves of their money., with no real discernable benefit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second example was published more recently in The Telegraph and other newspapers that Mobile Phones are Responsible for the disappearance of bees. Firstly, we don’t really have a problem with the disappearance of bees in this country – in the US there do seem to be issues, but here in the UK we’ve above average losses for a few years, but that appears to be back on the decline (regression to the mean, if you will). 10% of bee colonies die out during winter due to food issues, disease, predators etc . We have increased instances of varroa mite, a nasty little blighter that can be destructive, but is treatable.  Still, there is a section of the press that for some reason want scientific proof that modernity is bad – science, electrosmog and mobile phones versus the natural bees whose life is endangered by our advancement. As it turns out, the research was done on 4 hives by strapping a mobile phone to it and ringing it every so often. Any beekeeper would have laughed his beehat off at that – you can treat 4 hives exactly the same and get 4 entirely different colonies; bees are far too interesting and complex to demonstrate homogenous behaviour.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The research was completely pointless, and indeed Ian Douglas (Science writer at the Telegraph) blogged about how this story from his own paper was non-research. No matter, the damage was done and round the UK and further afield, a new cohort of people now think that mobile phones kill bees. The problem is, they may, but this silly research does absolutely nothing to find out whether they do. Just misinform.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the summary, I’ll give you Ian Douglas’ final line:&lt;br /&gt;“Panicked flapping around and hasty surveys masquerading as genuine, deliberate, reasoned science won’t get us anywhere.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He’s right – and there’s probably some research to prove it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Links for the story:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bee Stories:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Life Mel Honey - &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Mel_Honey"&gt;wiki page&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/03/bluffers-guide-to-consumer-related.html"&gt;My blogpost&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://is.gd/cATj9"&gt;Telegraph article&lt;/a&gt; on phones &amp; beehives(by general correspondent)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://bit.ly/dnpePW"&gt;Rebuttal&lt;/a&gt; by Telegraph blogger Ian Douglas&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-7115065144972219365?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/7115065144972219365/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/06/just-skeptics-episode-5-research-media.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7115065144972219365'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7115065144972219365'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/06/just-skeptics-episode-5-research-media.html' title='Just Skeptics - Episode 5 - Research, media and beeeees'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-6707474009737687731</id><published>2010-04-29T18:24:00.006+01:00</published><updated>2010-04-29T19:24:08.594+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Righteous INdignation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='podcast'/><title type='text'>Podcast Pimping: Righteous Indignation</title><content type='html'>So, I'm pretty much a politician right now - &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/04/podcast-pimping-inkredulous.html"&gt;previously apologisin&lt;/a&gt;g for something bad I did (in this case, pimping podcast rather than proper blogging) and saying how it will improve in future, and then, pretty much doing the same thing again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This time I'm on this week's &lt;a href="http://parafort.com/ri/?p=691"&gt;Righteous Indignation&lt;/a&gt; podcast, with Trystan Swale and Gavin Schofield. Normally, Hayley Stevens presents and without her gender balance there was a risk of it becoming unbalanced and blokey. Might have ended up with an overcompensation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hayley did the editing, removing all my idiosyncratic 'ums' and 'ers', making me sound almost coherent - I mean, how else would you explain the comments on &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=89397039797&amp;topic=14747"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;? :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;T&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-6707474009737687731?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/6707474009737687731/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/04/podcast-pimping-righteous-indignation.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/6707474009737687731'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/6707474009737687731'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/04/podcast-pimping-righteous-indignation.html' title='Podcast Pimping: Righteous Indignation'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-497508995510339194</id><published>2010-04-26T08:32:00.005+01:00</published><updated>2010-04-27T08:43:27.424+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Newsarse'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Tristan Swale'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Amateur Scientist'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='podcast'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Merseyside Skeptics Society'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='inkredulous'/><title type='text'>Podcast Pimping: InKredulous</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S9aVmDhcfjI/AAAAAAAAAKI/flvSa6ISANI/s1600/inkredulous.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 300px; height: 300px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S9aVmDhcfjI/AAAAAAAAAKI/flvSa6ISANI/s320/inkredulous.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5464719678873828914" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another enjoyably self-indulgent pimp for my whoring around various podcasts - this time, InKredulous - the skeptical panel-game-style podcast from the Merseyside Skeptics Society.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On this episode were:&lt;br /&gt;Rich Smith – Chief Editor and writer at &lt;a href="http://www.newsarse.com/"&gt;Newsarse.com&lt;/a&gt; (@newsarse)&lt;br /&gt;Brian Thompson – Writer and producer of the &lt;a href="http://www.amateurscientist.org/"&gt;Amateur Scientist&lt;/a&gt; comedy show (@AmSci)&lt;br /&gt;Trystan Swale – Co-presenter of the &lt;a href="http://www.ripodcast.co.uk/"&gt;Righteous Indignation&lt;/a&gt; podcast (@ripodcast)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Having listened to the edit, I think the four or us have a pretty good shot at comedy (it was certainly tremendous craic recording it) - if you can abide me laughing like a chipmunk, usually at my own gags :/ then I reckon you'll enjoy the podcast.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can download the whole thing from &lt;a href="http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/category/podcast/inkredulous-podcast/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know, I know, where are the blogposts? Where is the incisive cutting-edge doggedly-determined investigative journalistic blogposts that were supposed to cover these garish pages? Well, I can only offer apologies and excuses. Time is getting the better of me these days, but hopefully soon there'll be more fun and games for your enjoyment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;T&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-497508995510339194?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/497508995510339194/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/04/podcast-pimping-inkredulous.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/497508995510339194'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/497508995510339194'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/04/podcast-pimping-inkredulous.html' title='Podcast Pimping: InKredulous'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S9aVmDhcfjI/AAAAAAAAAKI/flvSa6ISANI/s72-c/inkredulous.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-1784956391015553597</id><published>2010-04-16T17:18:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2010-04-16T17:25:23.210+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Simon Singh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='British Chiropractic Association'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chiropractic'/><title type='text'>BCA drop libel case against Simon Singh - oh, you already knew.....</title><content type='html'>It all happened yesterday and everyone had toasted, cheered, laughed, tweeted, smoked and cajoled before you could say "chiropractors promote bogus treatments without so much as a jot of evidence."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As it was my birthday, I was drunk. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, in the time-honoured fashion of the stable-closing post horse, I'll direct you to fuller reports:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://jackofkent.blogspot.com/2010/04/bca-drop-case-against-simon-singh.html"&gt;Jack of Kent&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=1853"&gt;Neurologica&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://skeptic.org.uk/news/2010/2545"&gt;Skeptic Blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.zenosblog.com/2010/04/chiropractic-awareness-week-2008-2010/"&gt;Zeno's Blog&lt;/a&gt; (With reference to Chiropractic awareness week)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.badscience.net/2010/04/british-chiropractic-association-drops-shameful-libel-case-against-science-writer-who-criticised-them/"&gt;Bad Science&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-1784956391015553597?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/1784956391015553597/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/04/bca-drop-libel-case-against-simon-singh.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/1784956391015553597'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/1784956391015553597'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/04/bca-drop-libel-case-against-simon-singh.html' title='BCA drop libel case against Simon Singh - oh, you already knew.....'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-5544105935224534679</id><published>2010-04-01T10:14:00.005+01:00</published><updated>2010-04-01T13:43:10.853+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Simon Singh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bogus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='British Chiropractic Association'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='legal chill'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='BCA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chiropractic'/><title type='text'>Simon Singh wins libel appeal!</title><content type='html'>News just in, Simon Singh has won his appeal hearing for the right to rely on the defence of 'fair comment'. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I reckon the BCA will cave very soon......(some might suggest that the BCA happily promote bogus lawsuits, but I wouldn't say that, of course).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8598472.stm"&gt;BBC report&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll put the full ruling up once it becomes available.EDIT it's &lt;a href="http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2010/350.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;EDIT: British Chiropractic Association's response can be found &lt;a href="http://www.chiropractic-uk.co.uk/gfx/uploads/textbox/Singh/BCA%20statement%201st%20April%202010.pdf"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; (pdf). It won't surprise you to read that it is full of slippery talk and transparent nonsense. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;EDIT: All your Simon Singh story details can be found &lt;a href="http://jackofkent.blogspot.com/2010/04/bca-v-singh-astonishingly-liberal.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, via the Jack Of Kent blog.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-5544105935224534679?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/5544105935224534679/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/04/simon-singh-wins-libel-appeal.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/5544105935224534679'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/5544105935224534679'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/04/simon-singh-wins-libel-appeal.html' title='Simon Singh wins libel appeal!'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-5368059457397448223</id><published>2010-03-23T20:31:00.003Z</published><updated>2010-03-23T21:45:33.138Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='artrosilium'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='IntraMed'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Trading Standards'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MHRA'/><title type='text'>MHRA powerless to stop unregistered medicines being sold in UK</title><content type='html'>Artrosilium is an unlicensed, evidence-free, bullshit-claiming arthritis therapy. A recent email exchange with MHRA shows it is powerless to stop Artrosilium being sold in the UK.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.artrosiliumonline.com/index.php"&gt;Artrosilium&lt;/a&gt; has been a regular guest on this blog. It is an 'organic silica' gel which the sellers claim can treat arthritis, eczema, psoriasis, verrucas, various skin irritations, haemorrhoids and even prostate problems. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, in the true nature of dodgy products, there's no need to prove any of the above claims - if you're flogging duff medicines and flouting the UK laws then bullshitting about your product's ability won't cause much moral panic. The product was deemed a medicinal product in 2001 by MHRA but is not licensed for sale in the UK.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This blog has featured 5 blog posts on artrosilium, originally on a &lt;a href="http://badscience.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&amp;t=4447&amp;p=75694&amp;hilit=artrosilium#p75694"&gt;tip-off&lt;/a&gt; from Ben Goldacre on the Bad Science forums; &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/04/sciencemangle-uk-is-unregulated-case.html"&gt;The UK is Unregulated&lt;/a&gt; in 2008 introduced Artrosilium and how the MHRA were able to get the company to amend its baseless claims. However, even though the website was a .co.uk domain, this didn't count as a UK presence, and so they were powerless to go any further. The second post in July 2008 looked at &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/06/business-model-of-quackery.html"&gt;The Business Model of Quackery&lt;/a&gt;, showing how to get round the pesky UK legislation that stops rogue traders selling unlicensed medicines to unsuspecting (and often vulnerable) people. The &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/09/birthday-result-artrosilium-website.html"&gt;third mention&lt;/a&gt; was on the 1 year anniversary of this site in Sept 2008 and detailed the involvement of Members of Parliament to get www.artrosilium.co.uk closed down. It now redirects to www.artrosilium.com, which is safe from the meddling hands of the UK authorities, and has stayed that way since Aug 08, as &lt;a href="http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.artrosilium.co.uk"&gt;The Wayback Machine&lt;/a&gt; will testify. The last 2 posts (&lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/11/asa-three-strikes-and-you-arefree-to.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/02/artrosilium-intramed-windsor-bogus.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) centred on Intramed's disregard for the Advertising Standards Authority, by continually putting unsubstantiated drivel and bullshit in their adverts for their quack products. (Indeed, they are still at it - there have been &lt;a href="http://www.asa.org.uk/Complaints-and-ASA-action/Adjudications.aspx?SearchTerms=intramed#results"&gt;10 ASA rulings against Intramed&lt;/a&gt; in the last 3 years, the most recent one in &lt;a href="http://www.asa.org.uk/Complaints-and-ASA-action/Adjudications/2010/3/IntraMed-Ltd/TF_ADJ_48190.aspx"&gt;March 2010&lt;/a&gt; - This to me indicates a company which doesn't give a rat's ass about advertising, safety or legislation. But you can buy their 'medicines' of you want to - I can't believe anyone would be crazy enough to.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a result of this infatuated blogging, this site now comes up 2nd on a &lt;a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=artrosilium&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&amp;client=firefox-a"&gt;Google search for 'artrosilium'&lt;/a&gt;, and 40% of the keyword traffic to this site is associated with either artrosilium or IntraMed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a result, even though the above blogposts are quite old, new comments are still made, often from people who have among other things tried it, been conned by it and been wary of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the tail end of last year (2009), a chap called GrimsbyLad scanned in and emailed an Artrosilium mailshot to this blog, offering a free sample of the product, as well as 11 pages of the usual nonsense of claims like 'guaranteed arthritis relief'. It seemed like a good time to have another crack at the MHRA and trading standards and so dialogue was opened and the email conversation has been sent to this blog for coverage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first reply came in late November 2009, which stated:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The product Artrosilium was classified as a medicinal product by the MHRA, in December 2001. It is manufactured in France and has been sold by both Bodywell SA and IntraMed Ltd operating from outside the EU. &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;In both cases the business set-up has rendered enforcement action under medicines legislation through the courts, impossible&lt;/span&gt;. There are several other products involved as well, as you will have seen from the ASA adjudications, and other Agencies have experienced similar difficulties in bringing complaints to justice.&lt;br /&gt;For this reason, the MHRA, alongside certain Trading Standards Services, has referred the matter on to the Office of Fair Trading. Your e-mail and the attachments have been forwarded to them also.&lt;/blockquote&gt; My bold. That's a pretty big admission from the organisation in charge of licensing medicines in the UK to say that due to the way company has set itself up, it is no longer able to come under the MHRA's jurisdiction. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The MHRA were then prodded for an update in March 2010, 4 months later. Surely, having noticed that it is possible, by setting up your business in a certain way, you can circumvent UK legislation, the MHRA had made strides to close the loophole? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Unfortunately, OFT have declined to investigate the activities of Intramed. The MHRA and the Trading Standards Service are making a combined effort to exercise some control over the company's agents in the UK but, you will recognise, Intramed are well aware of the advantage their Hong Kong status confers in terms of the regulations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No explanation was given as to why the OFT have declined to investigate - one hopes that it is because the public are savvy enough to see the product for what it is and that even a cursory investigation into IntraMed sets alarm bells ringing, and so the number of people suckered by this company are few.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The point however remains - if you set your business up correctly, you can sell unregulated medicines into the UK with impunity. And that's according to the people responsible for licensing the medicines in the UK, the MHRA. That, to me, is a breathtakingly dangerous situation to be in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have a feeling this won't be the last blogpost on this site about Artrosilium.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-5368059457397448223?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/5368059457397448223/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/03/mhra-powerless-to-stop-unregistered.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/5368059457397448223'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/5368059457397448223'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/03/mhra-powerless-to-stop-unregistered.html' title='MHRA powerless to stop unregistered medicines being sold in UK'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-6317790549813944373</id><published>2010-03-09T05:19:00.006Z</published><updated>2010-03-09T05:40:36.131Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Righteous INdignation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homeopathy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='podcast'/><title type='text'>Righteous Indignation Podcast</title><content type='html'>Just a quick note to say I can be heard jibber-jabbering in this week's &lt;a href="http://www.ripodcast.co.uk/"&gt;Righteous Indignation &lt;/a&gt;Podcast, self-appointedly standing in for Marsh. First 'live' podcast I've done, and in fairness I could have benefited from a whisper less Dutch courage and ounce or two more coherence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Still, the edit is kind, and you can hear Trystan Swale, Hayley Stevens, Gavin Schofield and myself discuss skeptical news, ghosts and interview &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2008/may/04/booksonhealth.scienceandnature"&gt;Rose Shapiro, author of "Suckers: How Alternative Medicine makes fools of us all"&lt;/a&gt; here &lt;a href="http://media.libsyn.com/media/ripodcast/righteous_indignation_episode_38.mp3"&gt;(download)&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was great fun to do - thanks to the RI team for the opportunity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-6317790549813944373?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/6317790549813944373/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/03/righteous-indignation-podcast.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/6317790549813944373'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/6317790549813944373'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/03/righteous-indignation-podcast.html' title='Righteous Indignation Podcast'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-7666094274659353355</id><published>2010-03-04T20:33:00.010Z</published><updated>2010-03-04T21:42:27.436Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homeopathy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MHRA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arnica'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='nelsons'/><title type='text'>HA! Ha! Nelson's Natural World forced to change website by MHRA</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1kQ-EdMwh5s/R3OZfAkx8-I/AAAAAAAAAYI/mffR2pTa90k/s200/imagen-imagenes-humor-risa-nelson-simpson.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 200px; height: 152px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1kQ-EdMwh5s/R3OZfAkx8-I/AAAAAAAAAYI/mffR2pTa90k/s200/imagen-imagenes-humor-risa-nelson-simpson.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hot off the heels of the &lt;a href="http://www.1023.org.uk/"&gt;10:23 campaign&lt;/a&gt; and the UK Parliamentary Science &amp;amp; Technology &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/02/come-in-homeopaths-your-time-is-up-mps.html"&gt;"Evidence Check"&lt;/a&gt; on homeopathy, a major UK supplier of homeopathic products has been investigated by the MHRA Enforcement Division, and forced to make website changes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://nelsonhaha.com/"&gt;Nelson's&lt;/a&gt; had previously stated that their homeopathic product &lt;i&gt;30c Sulphur&lt;/i&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;is known amongst homeopaths for its many skin benefits.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5Ao1ZhSd7I/AAAAAAAAAKA/61KRv0USI-k/s1600-h/nelson.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 222px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5Ao1ZhSd7I/AAAAAAAAAKA/61KRv0USI-k/s400/nelson.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5444896847339616178" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is, of course, not in keeping with the &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/homeopathy-regulation-and-mhra.html"&gt;UK legislation on homeopathic products&lt;/a&gt; which says that homeopathic products not licensed under the EU's National Rules Scheme must not provide therapeutic indications but bear the legend:&lt;blockquote&gt;“This is a homeopathic medicinal product without approved therapeutic indications.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The website now looks like &lt;a href="http://www.nelsonsnaturalworld.com/en-gb/uk/our-brands/nelsons-pure-clear/products/sulphur-30c/"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course &lt;a href="http://nelsonhaha.com/"&gt;Nelson's&lt;/a&gt; know that therapeutic indications are not allowed when selling or marketing homeopathic products, and yet didn't seem to have an issue with disregarding the legislation. I know they know this, because in the UK, there is only one homeopathic product licensed with the MHRA under the National Rules Scheme which &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;is&lt;/span&gt; allowed to state therapeutic indications - guess who it's made by? Indeed - &lt;a href="http://nelsonhaha.com/"&gt;Nelson's&lt;/a&gt;. Their Arnicare 30c Arnica was &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/07/mhra-publish-public-assessment-of.html"&gt;licensed by the MHRA last July&lt;/a&gt;, some 18 months after the application by &lt;a href="http://nelsonhaha.com/"&gt;Nelson's&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would have thought that a homeopathic pill supplier, such as &lt;a href="http://nelsonhaha.com/"&gt;Nelson's&lt;/a&gt;, leading the way in the industry by providing the necessary documentation over a period of 18 months to the MHRA, would have known the legislation pretty well and known that selling homeopathic remedies with therapeutic indications is not acceptable in the UK. Seems not - it's very tempting to suggest they knew *exactly* what they were doing, but with the &lt;a href="http://www.libelreform.org/"&gt;UK's libel laws&lt;/a&gt; as they are, I'll not be making that suggestion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In reality, the new website is an example of silly, pointless legislation. On one hand, Nelson's aren't allowed to describe any symptoms that the sugar pills are supposedly an aid for, but must state: &lt;blockquote&gt;"If symptoms worsen or persist, consult a doctor"&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Symptoms? What symptoms? I can't say, but take these pills until they clear up!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In any case, &lt;a href="http://nelsonhaha.com/"&gt;Nelson's&lt;/a&gt; are in good company - a similar event happened in Oct 09, when &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/10/mhra-force-boots-to-remove-homeopathic.html"&gt;Boots were similarly forced&lt;/a&gt; to amend their website in accordance with UK legislation. Indeed, an email I've seen from the MHRA says that due to the number of 'non-compliant' websites, they will be releasing a guidance document on the advertising of homeopathic products. I wouldn't hold your breath though, it's taken them 4 months to get &lt;a href="http://nelsonhaha.com/"&gt;Nelson's&lt;/a&gt; to change their website, imagine how long a document will take....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-7666094274659353355?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/7666094274659353355/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/03/ha-ha-nelsons-natural-world-forced-to.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7666094274659353355'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7666094274659353355'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/03/ha-ha-nelsons-natural-world-forced-to.html' title='HA! 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Nelson&apos;s Natural World forced to change website by MHRA'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1kQ-EdMwh5s/R3OZfAkx8-I/AAAAAAAAAYI/mffR2pTa90k/s72-c/imagen-imagenes-humor-risa-nelson-simpson.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-7789721787541686953</id><published>2010-02-22T20:21:00.007Z</published><updated>2010-02-22T20:37:58.790Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homeopath'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evcheck'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homeopathy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='crispian jago'/><title type='text'>"Come in homeopaths, your time is up" - MPs urge Government to quit funding homeopathy</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S4LqKhJmveI/AAAAAAAAAJQ/jEMYIxOxSL4/s1600-h/homeopathclear.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: centre; cursor: pointer; width: 350px; height: 353px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S4LqKhJmveI/AAAAAAAAAJQ/jEMYIxOxSL4/s400/homeopathclear.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5441168766235229666" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And about time to.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The UK Parliament Science &amp;amp; Technology Committee today published their 'Evidence Check' into homeopathy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lots of blogs and news outlets have been tiggerish with excitement and covering this excellently, so no need to repeat it all here - &lt;a href="http://xtaldave.posterous.com/blogs-about-the-homeopathy-evidence-check-evc"&gt;XtalDave&lt;/a&gt; has a good roundup of the blogs covering it, but suffice today the report (&lt;a href="http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmsctech/45/45.pdf"&gt;.pdf&lt;/a&gt; here) concluded that the NHS shouldn't fund Homeopathic hospitals, that the theory behind homeopathy was 'weak', that homeopathy trials have shown it is no better than placebo (very different from there being no evidence), that homeopathy decreases patient choice, and that homeopathy advocates cherry-picked the data they presented to the committee.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pretty much what this and other blogs have been saying for some time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, instead of providing sharp, insightful, thought-provoking analysis of the event, I've settled on a sub-&lt;a href="http://crispian-jago.blogspot.com/"&gt;Jagoist&lt;/a&gt; cheap laugh based on a weedkiller. Ta-dah!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-7789721787541686953?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/7789721787541686953/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/02/come-in-homeopaths-your-time-is-up-mps.html#comment-form' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7789721787541686953'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7789721787541686953'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/02/come-in-homeopaths-your-time-is-up-mps.html' title='&quot;Come in homeopaths, your time is up&quot; - MPs urge Government to quit funding homeopathy'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S4LqKhJmveI/AAAAAAAAAJQ/jEMYIxOxSL4/s72-c/homeopathclear.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-1957748346122570533</id><published>2010-01-29T08:54:00.012Z</published><updated>2010-01-29T10:19:07.893Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='the pod delusion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homeopathy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='10:23'/><title type='text'>The Pod Delusion - 10:23 campaign</title><content type='html'>&lt;object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0" width="352" height="200" id="embed-352x200" align="middle"&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="false"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.ipadio.com/embed/v1/embed-352x200.swf?callInView=local_17016&amp;channelInView=WEBSITE_USER_3452&amp;phlogId=undefined&amp;phonecastId=17016"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="quality" value="high" /&gt;&lt;param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.ipadio.com/embed/v1/embed-352x200.swf?callInView=local_17016&amp;channelInView=WEBSITE_USER_3452&amp;phlogId=undefined&amp;phonecastId=17016" quality="high" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="352" height="200" name="embed-352x200" align="middle" allowScriptAccess="sameDomain" allowFullScreen="false" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just a note to say that I've got a bit on The Pod Delusion this week (see above or download from &lt;a href="http://www.poddelusion.co.uk"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) blethering about homeopathic labelling and registration. (I know, pretty raunchy, huh?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please don't leave any comments about my voice making me sound like a dick - that is already an established fact.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The last two words on my bit were in response to Skeptic's With A K podcast - episode in question &lt;a href="http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/2009/11/skeptics-with-a-k-episode-008/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Please add SWAK podcast to your list of weekly podcast downloads &lt;a href="http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/skeptics-with-a-k/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-1957748346122570533?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/1957748346122570533/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/01/pod-delusion-1023-campaign.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/1957748346122570533'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/1957748346122570533'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/01/pod-delusion-1023-campaign.html' title='The Pod Delusion - 10:23 campaign'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-7815880717087019340</id><published>2010-01-24T19:31:00.004Z</published><updated>2010-01-24T22:30:02.215Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='boots'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homeopathy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='10:23'/><title type='text'>Why homeopaths should support the 10:23 campaign.</title><content type='html'>You may have already come across the &lt;a href="http://www.1023.org.uk/the-1023-overdose-event.php"&gt;10:23 campaign&lt;/a&gt;, a project that aims to raise awareness about the reality of homeopathy coordinated by the &lt;a href="http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/"&gt;Merseyside Skeptics Society.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At 10:23am on January 30th 2010, more than three hundred homeopathy skeptics nationwide will be taking part in a mass homeopathic 'overdose' in protest at Boots' continued endorsement and sale of homeopathic remedies, and to raise public awareness about the fact that homeopathic remedies have nothing in them. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The campaign has been picked up by a number of media outlets - The Independent &lt;a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/homoeopathy-sceptics-plan-mass-overdose-1875453.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/martin-robbins-magic-potions-must-not-be-sold-next-to-real-medicines-1875454.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7028989/Boots-hit-by-mass-homeopathy-overdose.html"&gt;The Telegraph&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/columnists/article6994273.ece"&gt;The Times&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jan/24/homeopathy-obesity-gastric-bands"&gt;The Observer&lt;/a&gt;, and, hilariously, the &lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1245211/Sceptics-plan-mass-overdose-protest-homeopathic-medicine.html"&gt;Daily Mail&lt;/a&gt;. (The Daily Mail got so confused with the big numbers associated with homeopathy, that they managed to inflate the NHS homeopathy budget by a factor of 1000. Basic editing has never been the Daily Mail's strong point).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There has been a backlash (of sorts) from the homeopathic community regarding the campaign, along with the &lt;a href="http://andyourelectronmicroscope.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/ad-hom-and-on-an-on-an-on-ad-hom/"&gt;standard name-calling &lt;/a&gt; that comes from proponents of alternative medicine any time it is criticised.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But why? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The campaign centres around Boots, the high street pharmacist. Boots is selling homeopathic products (own brand and branded) of varying dilutions, from various mother tinctures, with no restriction on amount to any old Horace, Jocasta or Gyles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One thing that skeptics and homeopaths can surely agree on, is that this is not how homeopathy should be available. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some skeptics would say that it shouldn't be available at all, whilst others would say that buying sugar pills isn't illegal and providing homeopaths don't make any claims as to its (lack of) effects, then &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;caveat emptor&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Both sets of skeptics would agree that Boots should be propounding evidence-based medicine and selling pharmacy and health products which have a proven efficacy and safety record. Selling magic sugar pills based on 18th century silliness is not what a respectable Pharmacist should be indulging in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Homeopaths, on the other hand, like to espouse the benefits of homeopathy as a 'holistic' philosophy, treating each person as a unique individual. The symptoms of having a cold are nothing to do with the cold virus that settled in your shnoz and reproduced at a rate of knots. No. It's to do with dis-ease and having an imbalanced immune system, and perhaps a poor mental state. For instance, see this on the &lt;a href="http://www.a-r-h.org/about.htm"&gt;Alliance of Registered Homeopaths&lt;/a&gt;' website:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Homeopathic medicines are chosen to treat the whole person, because homeopaths believe the mind and body operate as one, and you cannot treat one part of the body without affecting the whole. Medicines are chosen to fit all the characteristics of the patient, so physical disorders are considered in relation to the individual’s mental and emotional state.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.hmc21.org/#/about-homeopathy/4535718454"&gt;The HMC:21&lt;/a&gt; website states that: &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;It should be emphasised, however, that homeopaths base treatment on the totality of the symptoms of the patient, not on a general disease definition.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.homeopathy-soh.org/about-homeopathy/"&gt;The Society of Homeopaths&lt;/a&gt;' website states:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Homeopathy treats all your symptoms - mental, emotional and physical.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Boots *own* website has a &lt;a href="http://www.bootslearningstore.co.uk/ks5/alt_med.pdf"&gt;.pdf&lt;/a&gt; to download on alternative therapies. It states that homeopathic assessment takes in to account the following:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;stress levels&lt;br /&gt;lifestyle&lt;br /&gt;level of exercise&lt;br /&gt;diet&lt;br /&gt;food preferences&lt;br /&gt;family medical history&lt;br /&gt;other factors such as weather&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Indeed. The weather. This is the origin of the phrase "feeling under the weather". No, you're right, it isn't.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, if a homeopathic assessment is of vital importance and the patient requires a highly trained homeopath to use their knowledge of symptoms, &lt;a href="http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/simillimum"&gt;simillima&lt;/a&gt;, and remedies, in order to put the patient back on the road to recovery (for the meagre sum of £100/hour), how on earth are Boots able to sell the remedies to any old misguided dabbler?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Sharp-eyed readers will remember the same argument being posed in a previous TiD &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/12/napiers-homeopathy-treating-individual.html"&gt;blogpost&lt;/a&gt; when Napier's were holding a &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Homeopathy for Families&lt;/span&gt; workshop, which provided the attendants with a free vial of Arnica 30c. Individualised, my arse).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am genuinely surprised that homeopaths have not complained that this accessability to homeopathic medicine is dangerous and can't be given to those without the secret knowledge; otherwise, of what value is the secret knowledge? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Results of self-diagnosis are undoubtedly as good as homeopath-diagnosed patients, as the actual remedies given will have been identical - just sugar pills - and the placebo will probably have been similar in each case).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For this reason, I'm calling on all homeopaths to stand up for what you believe and to complain to Boots about how they are making homeopathy accessible to untrained patients. Homeopaths should be calling on Boots to remove homeopathic products from their shelves, lest these terribly potent homeopathic medicines get in the wrong hands.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I look forward to seeing armies of homeopaths outside various branches of Boots on 30th Jan 2010 demanding that Big Pharmacy has no right selling homeopathic products and that the livelihood of the highly trained homeopath should be respected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whether or not you are a homeopath but would like to help get homeopathic products removed from Boots shelves, then join up at &lt;a href="http://www.1023.org.uk/"&gt;1023.org.uk&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-7815880717087019340?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/7815880717087019340/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/01/why-homeopaths-should-support-1023.html#comment-form' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7815880717087019340'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7815880717087019340'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2010/01/why-homeopaths-should-support-1023.html' title='Why homeopaths should support the 10:23 campaign.'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-347844361051240629</id><published>2009-12-15T11:04:00.003Z</published><updated>2009-12-15T11:18:15.054Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ivory coast'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='trafigura'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='BBC'/><title type='text'>Help beat the gag on the BBC!</title><content type='html'>You can help beat Trafigura’s gag on the BBC by embedding this Youtube video on your website…&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;…and linking to &lt;a href="http://richardwilsonauthor.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/censored-newsnight-story-pdf.pdf"&gt;this pdf&lt;/a&gt;! See &lt;a href="http://richardwilsonauthor.wordpress.com/2009/12/14/calling-all-bloggers-help-beat-the-gag-on-the-bbc/#comments"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; (full blogpost) as to why.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ocwLgilzmV8&amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;hl=en_US&amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ocwLgilzmV8&amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;hl=en_US&amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ySImPiktYWg&amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;hl=en_US&amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ySImPiktYWg&amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;hl=en_US&amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(H/T to &lt;a href="http://carmenego.wordpress.com/2009/12/14/trafigura-stinks/"&gt;Carmen Gets Around&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://richardwilsonauthor.wordpress.com/2009/12/14/calling-all-bloggers-help-beat-the-gag-on-the-bbc/"&gt;Don't Get Fooled Again&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-347844361051240629?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/347844361051240629/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-beat-gag-on-bbc.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/347844361051240629'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/347844361051240629'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-beat-gag-on-bbc.html' title='Help beat the gag on the BBC!'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-3624615842171045733</id><published>2009-12-04T22:11:00.005Z</published><updated>2009-12-04T22:43:09.018Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='boots'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homeopathy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Merseyside Skeptics Society'/><title type='text'>Merseyside Skeptics Society Stick the Boots in.</title><content type='html'>10:23pm on a Friday night - this is my rock and roll life. Due to moving house, I've had a month off blogging. Luckily nothing in the areas that I tend to blog about has happened in the last month. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, apart from the UK Parliament having an &lt;a href="http://www.parliament.uk/parliamentary_committees/science_technology/s_t_homeopathy_inquiry.cfm"&gt;evidence check session on homeopathy &lt;/a&gt; which is brilliantly on &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEby1w81pwU"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;, so you can watch some governmental weaselling and squirming at your convenience. Lots of good blogs have been covering this such as Ben Goldacre's &lt;a href="http://www.badscience.net/2009/11/all-bow-before-the-mighty-power-of-the-nocebo-effect/"&gt;Bad Science&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.layscience.net/node/828"&gt;Lay Science&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/11/can-we-trust-homeopaths-to-accredit.html"&gt;The Quackometer&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All this, and I missed it.....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The upshot of the session was a glut of anti-homeopathy pieces in the press, such as The Sun's &lt;a href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/health/health/2755952/Homeopathy-is-resources-drain-says-Jane-Symons.html"&gt;Homeopathy is a Resources Drain&lt;/a&gt;. (Sadly, there are still plenty of people who think &lt;a href="http://www.business-standard.com/india/storypage.php?autono=378486"&gt;sugar pills may cure AIDS&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of biggest gaffes from the session was by Paul Bennett, Chief Pharmacist of Boots who, &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/10/mhra-force-boots-to-remove-homeopathic.html"&gt;despite selling homeopathic products in a manner contrary to MHRA regulations&lt;/a&gt; said he had seen no evidence for their efficacy, but sold them because "large numbers of [Boot's] customers thought they worked". This is nothing new in reality, the Quackometer &lt;a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2006/08/boots-quack.html"&gt;blogged about this&lt;/a&gt; in 2006 and the &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/may/24/controversiesinscience.guardianhayfestival"&gt;Guardian ran a story &lt;/a&gt;on Boots &amp; homeopathy in May 2008.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Merseyside Skeptical Society wrote an open letter to Boots, reprinted below, outlining the ridiculous position Boots are placing themselves in. (MSS kindly discussed the Thinking is Dangerous blogpost on &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/10/mhra-force-boots-to-remove-homeopathic.html"&gt;Boots removing homeopathic sulphur 30c &lt;/a&gt;in Episode 8 on their excellent &lt;a href="http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/skeptics-with-a-k/"&gt;"Skeptics with a K" podcast.&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well said, MSS.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;An Open Letter to Alliance Boots&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Boots brand is synonymous with health care in the United Kingdom. Your website speaks proudly about your role as a health care provider and your commitment to deliver exceptional patient care. For many people, you are their first resource for medical advice; and their chosen dispensary for prescription and non-prescription medicines. The British public trusts Boots.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, in evidence given recently to the Commons Science and Technology Committee, you admitted that you do not believe homeopathy to be efficacious. Despite this, homeopathic products are offered for sale in Boots pharmacies – many of them bearing the trusted Boots brand.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not only is this two-hundred-year-old pseudo-therapy implausible, it is scientifically absurd. The purported mechanisms of action fly in the face of our understanding of chemistry, physics, pharmacology and physiology. As you are aware, the best and most rigorous scientific research concludes that homeopathy offers no therapeutic effect beyond placebo, but you continue to sell these products regardless because “customers believe they work”. Is this the standard you set for yourselves?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The majority of people do not have the time or inclination to check whether the scientific literature supports the claims of efficacy made by products such as homeopathy. We trust brands such as Boots to check the facts for us, to provide sound medical advice that is in our interest and supply only those products with a demonstrable medical benefit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We don’t expect to find products on the shelf at our local pharmacy which do not work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not only are these products ineffective, they can also be dangerous. Patients may delay seeking proper medical assistance because they believe homeopathy can treat their condition. Until recently, the Boots website even went so far as to tell patients that “after taking a homeopathic medicine your symptoms may become slightly worse,” and that this is “a sign that the body’s natural energies have started to counteract the illness”. Advice such as this directly encourages patients to wait before seeking real medical attention, even when their condition deteriorates.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We call upon Boots to withdraw all homeopathic products from your shelves. You should not be involved in the sale of ineffective products, because your customers trust you to do what is right for their health. Surely you agree that your commitment to excellent patient care is better served by supplying only those products whose claims can be substantiated by rigorous scientific research? Or do you really believe that Boots should be in the business of selling placebos to the sick and the injured?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The support lent by Boots to this quack therapy contributes directly to its acceptance as a valid medical treatment by the British public, acceptance it does not warrant and support it does not deserve. Please do the right thing, and remove this bogus therapy from your shelves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yours sincerely,&lt;br /&gt;Merseyside Skeptics Society&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-3624615842171045733?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/3624615842171045733/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/12/merseyside-skeptics-society-stick-boots.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/3624615842171045733'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/3624615842171045733'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/12/merseyside-skeptics-society-stick-boots.html' title='Merseyside Skeptics Society Stick the Boots in.'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-1339241034019838068</id><published>2009-10-28T17:50:00.010Z</published><updated>2010-01-07T20:10:51.734Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='boots'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homoeopathy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homeopathy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='holland and barratt'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='nelsons'/><title type='text'>MHRA cause Boots to remove homeopathic product and update website</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SuiKmegOxKI/AAAAAAAAAJE/cT1NbIN2yYg/s1600-h/boots.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 222px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SuiKmegOxKI/AAAAAAAAAJE/cT1NbIN2yYg/s400/boots.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5397716547031450786" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Back in July, Boots had been promoting Nelson's Sulphur 30c homeopathic remedies, alongside a pdf to download to help you choose which homeopathic product you thought you needed, complete with therapeutic indications. (I hate it when I forget to cache a website that's being complained about. Never mind...)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After a complaint from this site, the MHRA contacted Boots and instructed them to change their website, using only the phrase &lt;blockquote&gt;Nelsons Sulphur 30c Pillules is a homeopathic medicinal product without approved therapeutic indications&lt;/blockquote&gt; according to the current legislation. Boots have since &lt;a href="http://www.boots.com/en/Nelsons-Sulphur-30c-84-Pillules_923406/"&gt;removed the product completely&lt;/a&gt;, however the &lt;a href="http://www.boots.com/wcsstore/cmsassets/Boots/Content/Products/Homoeopathy%20-%20CAT:%20A00000517/10008234.P/add_leaf.pdf"&gt;Patient Guide to Homeopathy &lt;/a&gt;is still on the website. MHRA are now aware of this and so hopefully it too will disappear soon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not that it matters really, because Holland &amp; Barrett are selling Nelson's Sulphur 30c pillules, complete with therapeutic indications, and completely contravening the law (original link to website &lt;a href="http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=932"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;). The MHRA are now aware, and the offending site can be seen here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SuiImnGn8mI/AAAAAAAAAI0/qkQKi_4BDaA/s1600-h/holland.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 194px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SuiImnGn8mI/AAAAAAAAAI0/qkQKi_4BDaA/s400/holland.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5397714350316712546" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Indeed, even Nelson's own site (original site &lt;a href="http://www.nelsonsnaturalworld.com/en-gb/uk/our-brands/nelsons-pure-clear/products/sulphur-30c/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) deems itself above the law by claiming that the product is "known by homeopaths for its many skin benefits" which is woolly wording in my book, but we'll see what the MHRA do.&lt;br /&gt;(Nelson's also promote the product with therapeutic indications on their Nelson's Homeopathy page &lt;a href="http://www.nelsonshomeopathy.com/shop-online/Nelsons-Sulphur-30c_prod1761.aspx"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SuiIyYXOPrI/AAAAAAAAAI8/EmHhv3SVBCM/s1600-h/nelson.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 222px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SuiIyYXOPrI/AAAAAAAAAI8/EmHhv3SVBCM/s400/nelson.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5397714552518229682" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fastest.Blogpost.Ever.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-1339241034019838068?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/1339241034019838068/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/10/mhra-force-boots-to-remove-homeopathic.html#comment-form' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/1339241034019838068'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/1339241034019838068'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/10/mhra-force-boots-to-remove-homeopathic.html' title='MHRA cause Boots to remove homeopathic product and update website'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SuiKmegOxKI/AAAAAAAAAJE/cT1NbIN2yYg/s72-c/boots.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-1462809493366544745</id><published>2009-10-23T13:04:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2009-10-23T13:40:12.638+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='herbal remedies'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='THR'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homeopathy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MHRA'/><title type='text'>Totally Hypothetical Remedy? - MHRA introduce certification mark for herbal remedies.</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SuGcUIBGOJI/AAAAAAAAAIs/4VkmPRXHwsk/s1600-h/thr.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 291px; height: 274px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SuGcUIBGOJI/AAAAAAAAAIs/4VkmPRXHwsk/s400/thr.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5395765698129967250" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; This is the new &lt;a href="http://www.mhra.gov.uk/Howweregulate/Medicines/Herbalmedicines/PlacingaherbalmedicineontheUKmarket/TraditionalHerbalMedicinesRegistrationScheme/TraditionalHerbalRegistrationcertificationmark/index.htm"&gt;Traditional Herbal Registration certification mark&lt;/a&gt;. Well, it is apart from the 'Warning', which is what I think it is lacking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to the MHRA, this &lt;blockquote&gt;indicates that the herbal medicine has been registered with the MHRA under the Traditional Herbal Registration (THR) scheme and meets the required standards relating to its quality, safety, evidence of traditional use and other criteria as set out under the Traditional Herbal Medicinal Products Directive (THMPD) 2004/24/EC.&lt;/blockquote&gt; There have been 92 applications since the scheme began in March 06.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The most important line is this one: &lt;blockquote&gt;Under this scheme, the permitted indications for the medicine are based on traditional usage &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;and not on evidence of effectiveness of the product&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt; My bold. So, as &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/homeopathy-regulation-and-mhra.html"&gt;I wrote before with homeopathy&lt;/a&gt;, as long as the seller can demonstrate safety of the product and a history of use for the particular therapeutic indication, then it can receive the THR stamp and be sold legitimately, despite there being no investigation into whether it works or not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[The MHRA &lt;a href="http://www.mhra.gov.uk/Howweregulate/Medicines/Herbalmedicines/PlacingaherbalmedicineontheUKmarket/Transferofherbalmarketingauthorisationstotraditionalherbalregistrationstatus/index.htm"&gt;guidance&lt;/a&gt; states: &lt;blockquote&gt;European Directive 2004/24/EC on traditional herbal medicinal products was brought forward specifically in recognition of the position that for many herbal medicines it was difficult for companies to meet the full requirements for a marketing authorisation, &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;particularly in relation to efficacy&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt; So, because it was difficult to prove they had any efficacy, it was deemed best to create a class of 'pseudo-medicines' that could pretend to be effective, but didn't have to prove it.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On a positive note, any product with this mark on it will single it out clearly and obviously to me as snakeoil - if it were a *real* medicine that, you know, actually had some effect, then it would be marketed as such and would have some evidence to back it up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, perhaps we should look at this stamp as a victory for evidence-based medicine, as it singles out products without any provable efficacy for all to see.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-1462809493366544745?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/1462809493366544745/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/10/totally-hypothetical-remedy-mhra.html#comment-form' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/1462809493366544745'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/1462809493366544745'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/10/totally-hypothetical-remedy-mhra.html' title='Totally Hypothetical Remedy? - MHRA introduce certification mark for herbal remedies.'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SuGcUIBGOJI/AAAAAAAAAIs/4VkmPRXHwsk/s72-c/thr.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-4950171647761285027</id><published>2009-09-21T17:26:00.005+01:00</published><updated>2009-09-21T18:45:10.620+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homeopathy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Napiers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MHRA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arnica'/><title type='text'>"We are all individuals!" - The Comedy of Homeopathy</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/LQqq3e03EBQ&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/LQqq3e03EBQ&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Poking fun at homeopaths and those that follow the religion of homeopathy is an easy game: it's an 18th century quack medicine that requires laws of physics and chemistry to be binned in favour of a belief system based on anecdotes and a denial of evidence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is plenty to go at: the pills are nothing more than sugar and water, diluted to near infinity, the followers have an unwavering belief in the power of the magic pill and the theory of homeopathy is so topsy-turvy it requires a huge amount of hand-waving and circle-squaring to make any sense out of it. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Time and time again it has been shown to be &lt;a href="http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/homeo.html"&gt;no better than placebo&lt;/a&gt;, despite the homeopathic high priests trying to cure &lt;a href="http://www.dcscience.net/?p=207"&gt;AIDS&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/04/neals-yard-withdraw-homeopathic-malaria.html"&gt;malaria&lt;/a&gt; and other diseases, sometimes at &lt;a href="http://layscience.net/node/467"&gt;the expense of proven medicines&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the huge paradoxes in the homeopathic theory is the need to offer the patient an individualised medicine - remember the Homepathic Mantra:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Homeopathy heals the person, not the dis-ease &lt;/blockquote&gt; and on the other hand, sell bottles of homepathic medicine &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/07/mhra-publish-public-assessment-of.html"&gt;for specific ailments&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The idea that the sugar pills need to be indivualised, but also can sold in a popular dilution for a specific ailment is one that I have yet to hear any homeopath explain coherently. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Take a look at the &lt;a href="http://www.a-r-h.org/about.htm"&gt;Alliance of Registered Homeopaths' website&lt;/a&gt; for instance: &lt;blockquote&gt;Homeopathic medicines are chosen to treat the whole person, because homeopaths believe the mind and body operate as one, and you cannot treat one part of the body without affecting the whole&lt;/blockquote&gt; which is followed in the next paragraph by, and seemingly without a hint of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance"&gt;cognitive dissonance,&lt;/a&gt;:  &lt;blockquote&gt;The onion - Allium cepa - can be used homeopathically to treat colds and hayfever where the main symptoms include runny eyes and nose. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Similarly, the &lt;a href="http://www.homeopathy-soh.org/about-homeopathy/"&gt;Society of Homepaths' website&lt;/a&gt; gives the following mangled idea: &lt;blockquote&gt;What can homeopathy treat?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Homeopathy treats the person, there is some evidence to suggest it can help a person manage the symptoms of acute fevers, sore throats and toothache, to chronic illnesses such as arthritis, eczema, asthma, anxiety and insomnia.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Note the modifiers "some evidence", "suggest", "help", "manage" and "symptoms" - even with these language modifiers in place, it's still stretching the truth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The pinnacle of this confused comedy came last January, when &lt;a href="http://www.napiers.net/"&gt;Napiers Herb and Plant Remedies&lt;/a&gt; held a workshop called "Homeopathy for Families" workshop. The advert has since vanished but I &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/12/napiers-homeopathy-treating-individual.html"&gt;blogged&lt;/a&gt; about it back in the day. The workshop cost £20, but delegates would receive &lt;blockquote&gt;a complimentary bottle of the homeopathic remedy Arnica.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Imagine if Pfizer ran a similar scheme, giving away a bottle of Viagra to each delegate? It would be popular, sure, but wholly, wholly unethical, immoral, and illegal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I made the &lt;a href="http://www.mhra.gov.uk/Howweregulate/Medicines/Advertisingofmedicines/Advertisinginvestigations/CON054672"&gt;MHRA&lt;/a&gt; aware of this - and was faced with another crazy dichotomy in the up-is-down world of homeopathy. MHRA decided that because the product isn't licensed as a medicine, &lt;blockquote&gt;the restriction on the distribution of free samples therefore did not apply&lt;/blockquote&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Compare this with the &lt;a href="http://www.a-r-h.org/about.htm"&gt;Alliance of Homeopaths Website&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;Homeopathy is one of the two most widely used forms of medicine in the world today&lt;/blockquote&gt; So it's a medicine but not &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;registered&lt;/span&gt; as a medicine. Black is white.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a push from within the Church of Homeopathy to register some of these sugar pills under the &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/homeopathy-regulation-and-mhra.html"&gt;EU Homeopathic Registration (MLX312)&lt;/a&gt; scheme.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This scheme allows specific homeopathic preparations to be licensed for sale for specific therapeutic indication - to a backdrop of "treat the person, not the disease". &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After all, we are all individuals.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-4950171647761285027?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/4950171647761285027/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/09/we-are-all-individuals-comedy-of.html#comment-form' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/4950171647761285027'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/4950171647761285027'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/09/we-are-all-individuals-comedy-of.html' title='&quot;We are all individuals!&quot; - The Comedy of Homeopathy'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-2569774794450675454</id><published>2009-09-02T18:08:00.008+01:00</published><updated>2009-09-03T08:47:51.838+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='glasgow chiropractic'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chiropractic'/><title type='text'>Update on Glasgow Chiropractic</title><content type='html'>Back in July, I blogged on Glasgow Chiropractic's claims to cure &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/chiropractors-take-money-for-trying-to.html"&gt;asthma&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/chiropractics-claim-wrist-action-but.html"&gt;carpal tunnel syndrome&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/say-goodbye-to-colic-easy-way.html"&gt;colic&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/chiropractic-for-menstrual-pains-no.html"&gt;period pains&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Following a complaint to the General Chiropractic council, Glasgow Chiropractic tweaked their website to &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/say-goodbye-to-colic-easy-way.html"&gt;remove some of their claims&lt;/a&gt; and to included a surprisingly truthful statement that &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/07/chiropractors-admit-chiropractic-has.html"&gt;"Chiropractic has never cured anyone of anything".&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since then, they have completely revamped their website, bringing in a &lt;a href="http://www.chiromatrix.com/"&gt;ChiroMatrix&lt;/a&gt;, a "leader in Chiropractic website design" with the strapline "Raising healthier families".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is quite a subtle but interesting shift happening within chiropractic - Chiropractors are salespeople, and as any sales guru will tell you , integrating your business with your client as much as possible makes repeat business more likely and therefore the business increases profitability. No longer are chiros happy to hand wave and back-crack, if they can peddle a philosophy of constant need, regular checkups, and a long-term 'wellness plan', they are on their way to the bank because: &lt;blockquote&gt;Every person is unique, therefore everyone requires a  customised wellness plan.  The purpose  of our wellness program is for you to achieve good spinal alignment, have a healthy diet, exercise, and maintain a positive mental state.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Long termism, think more of the model of the dentist, rather than the doctor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Phase 1 of the Glasgow Chiropractic's "What to expect" is &lt;a href="http://glasgowchiropractic.com/custom_content/c_11602_phase_1_initial_intensive_care.html"&gt;initial intensive care&lt;/a&gt;. Here we find the &lt;a href="http://www.wordspy.com/words/HumptyDumptylanguage.asp"&gt;Humpty Dumpty language&lt;/a&gt; of what it means to cure: &lt;blockquote&gt;Chiropractic does not 'cure' anything! If you are looking for a list of symptoms that Chiropractic has been shown to 'cure' then you will just end up more confused than when you started.&lt;/blockquote&gt; No, you'll end up realising that there is no real evidence that chiropractic has any effect over placebo or similarly administered therapy. But they wouldn't say that, now would they? They'd rather call you 'confused'. I can understand how someone would be confused - &lt;a href="http://glasgowchiropractic.com/custom_content/c_25424_how_can_we_help.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; they repeat the 'chiropractic has never cured anyone of anything' line then one paragraph later state &lt;blockquote&gt;There are many 'conditions' that Chiropractic care has shown to provide assistance with.&lt;/blockquote&gt; - there's glory for you!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Phase 2 is &lt;a href="http://glasgowchiropractic.com/custom_content/c_11603_phase_2_corrective_care.html"&gt;Corrective Care&lt;/a&gt;. Bearing in mind the push for repeat business, how does this sit with you: &lt;blockquote&gt;In order to prevent a rapid recurrence of symptoms, it is often necessary to continue receiving care even though your symptoms are gone.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Nice little earner - a therapy which does nothing will continue to do nothing long after whatever it was it was supposed to do is not even needed! Taking a leaf out of the homeopaths book, they have the 'heads-I-win-tails-you-lose' argument - &lt;blockquote&gt;Do not be discouraged if you have mild flare-ups in your symptoms on occasion. This is normal.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Homeopaths have a similar get-out clause - called &lt;a href="http://homepage.ntlworld.com/homeopathy_advice/Theory/patients/pxaggs.html"&gt;aggravation&lt;/a&gt;. i.e. if the problem gets better it shows the sugar pill is working, if the problem gets worse, it still shows the sugar-pill is working. Similarly with Chiropractic, if the pain goes, it was due to chiropractic, if it doesn't that in no way means that the therapy is not beneficial - how can you lose! As sugar on top, &lt;blockquote&gt;this phase of your care may last anywhere from a few months to a couple of years.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Kerr-ching!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://glasgowchiropractic.com/custom_content/c_11604_phase_3_wellness_care.html"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Phase 3 is Wellness Care&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;When you make routine chiropractic care a part of your lifestyle, you avoid many of the aches and pains that so many people suffer through, your joints will last longer and you will be able to engage in more of the activities you love.&lt;/blockquote&gt; A completely unfalsifiable statement, but a slick sales ploy nonetheless.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It turns out that &lt;blockquote&gt;Some of our offices are equipped with the very latest in technology designed to non-invasively test your nervous system very accurately. This technology uses a number of cutting edge techniques to give you a very detailed report on the integrity of your spine and nerves. These systems are called the 'Discovery Insight' or the 'Neuro-Infiniti' - please ask at  reception about what technologies apply to you.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Doesn't that all sound very sciencey and exciting! &lt;a href="http://www.mullersport.com/winkel/product_info.php?cPath=221_103&amp;products_id=640"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is a bit more information on the Discovery Insight Subluxation Station. (Bear in mind, &lt;a href="http://www.chirobase.org/01General/chirosub.html"&gt;subluxations&lt;/a&gt; are a very undefined woolly concept in chiropractic, with no real agreement about what they are, so how anything can 'detect' them is a mystery). From the ad, it was used by NASA - oooooh. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Except it wasn't, &lt;a href="http://www.worldchiropracticalliance.org/tcj/2009/jul/a.htm"&gt;as they've distanced&lt;/a&gt; themselves from it. Indeed, the Chiropractic Journal has &lt;a href="http://chirotalk.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&amp;board=quacktxdevices&amp;thread=3274&amp;page=1#200"&gt;launched an investigation&lt;/a&gt; regarding the sales practices of the companies behind such machines. Without a hint of irony they state:  &lt;blockquote&gt;The Chiropractic Journal has 23- year history of representing doctors of chiropractic and watching their backs. We will not sit by and see doctors taken advantage of by charismatic salesmen concerned and motivated purely by profit.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Spoing!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One last bit on Glasgow Chiropractic, in case you had thought they had launched the "cure nothing/heal the person" Chiropractic 2.0 free of therapeutic indications, here is a photo of the Glasgow Chiropractic stand in an East Kilbride shopping centre, complete with old school (and removed from their website) claims of colic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll be sure to let the Advertising Standards Authority know. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/Sp6_6fmMzsI/AAAAAAAAAIk/Ge9pXnZbbKY/s1600-h/glaschir2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 196px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/Sp6_6fmMzsI/AAAAAAAAAIk/Ge9pXnZbbKY/s400/glaschir2.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5376946016761990850" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So either their stand or the website is talking rubbish. I reckon it's both.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;H/t to &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/Blue_Wode"&gt;Blue Wode&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/zeno001"&gt;Zeno&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-2569774794450675454?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/2569774794450675454/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/09/update-on-glasgow-chiropractic.html#comment-form' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/2569774794450675454'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/2569774794450675454'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/09/update-on-glasgow-chiropractic.html' title='Update on Glasgow Chiropractic'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/Sp6_6fmMzsI/AAAAAAAAAIk/Ge9pXnZbbKY/s72-c/glaschir2.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-4656188596198346175</id><published>2009-08-11T21:02:00.006+01:00</published><updated>2009-08-12T09:21:17.150+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='smoking'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homopathy'/><title type='text'>Magic Smokescreen - homeopathy &amp; cigarettes</title><content type='html'>Smoking is big business.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to the &lt;a href="http://www.the-tma.org.uk/tobacco-smuggling.aspx"&gt;Tobacco Manufacturers Association&lt;/a&gt; consumer spending on tobacco products in 2007 amounted to £12.6 billion. This led to tax revenue amounting to £9.9 billion - £8.0 billion in excise duty plus £1.9 billion in VAT.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then there's the aftermath - according to &lt;a href="http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/104949.php"&gt;Medical News Today&lt;/a&gt;, the global smoking cessation aids market is to reach $2.6 billion By 2010.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Quite the lucrative industry all in all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are all manner of products to try and wean the addict from the evil weed, with varying degrees of success, but surprise surprise, they all require will power and rely on the person concerned having a genuine desire to give up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It shouldn't really come as a surprise for this to be a booming industry. It is notoriously hard to give up, compounded by the fact that people &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;know&lt;/span&gt; it is notoriously hard to give up and that provides its own psychological barriers. To be cynical for one second, a product which relies on will-power (regardless of whether it is Big Pharma or Big Quacka), will help to ensure repeat sales from people who won't give up giving up, and keep the tills ringing for many a moon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is happy home turf for homeopathy - a placebo remedy that depends largely on the psychology of the person, and not at all on the sugar pill. Failure is due to lack of will-power, success is due to homeopathy. FTW!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Despite it being illegal to sell homeopathic products in the UK with therapeutic indications (unless licenced by the Medicine and Healthcare product Regulatory Agency), it is possible to buy homeopathic products marketed at the smoker.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How about a &lt;a href="http://www.smokersstopshop.co.uk/homeopathic.htm"&gt;homeopathic anti-smoking spray&lt;/a&gt; from Smoker Stop Shop?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Spray away your cravings (for tobacco smoke or chewing tobacco) with Smoke Control homeopathic oral spray. It helps with nervousness, anxiety and irritability when quitting. It can also help with cough or shortness of breath, difficult breathing and the sensation of weight on your chest from smoking.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Or what about those homeopathic detox tablets and anti-craving lozenges further down the page&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Drug Facts&lt;br /&gt;Active Ingredients (per lozenge)  Purpose&lt;br /&gt;Caladium seguinum 4x, 12x, 30x                 Reduces tobacco cravings&lt;br /&gt;Plantago major 4x                                          Reduces tobacco cravings&lt;br /&gt;Cinchona officinalis 6x, 12x, 30x                  Reduces tobacco cravings&lt;br /&gt;Lobelia inflata 6x                                           Reduces ill effects of nicotine&lt;br /&gt;Nux vomica 6x, 12x, 30x                              Reduces tobacco cravings&lt;br /&gt;Staphysagria 6x                                             Reduces ill effects due to tobacco&lt;br /&gt;Calcarea Phosphorica 12x                             Reduces tobacco cravings&lt;br /&gt;Ignatia amara 12x                                          Reduces nervous tension&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seems like pretty straightforward indications for homepathic products to me. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the interested few, I'm led to believe that 4x dilution is equivalent to a 2c concentration. This means that 1 drop of the mother tincture has been diluted in 99 drops, hit against a magic board (succussed) and then a drop of that taken and diluted in another 99 drops and succussed again. This means that although the product is dilute, there is still some 'active' in the sugar pill. i.e it's not a homeopathic remedy in reality, it's only labelled that to pass US Food and Drug authority regulations. This crazy loophole which means that products containing 'actives' can be called homeopathic and thereby politely excuse themselves from the rigours of normal drug testing. This can mean that the untested pseudo-homeopathic products have massive unknown negative side effects and cause problems in the users - &lt;a href="http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=530"&gt;ZiCam&lt;/a&gt; is the most recent example. A pseudo-pseudoscience, if you will.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This can lead to all sorts of wacky products like &lt;a href="http://www.nwcn.com/health/stories/NW_072309HEB-nicolite-KS.6d20d2ca.html"&gt;homeopathic nicotine water&lt;/a&gt; being sold (I'm sure I can get hold of some bong-water and sell that?) - but only in US, right? Our strict laws wouldn't allow such quackery to be sold in UK?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As ever there are loopholes. Just because a site has got a '.co.uk' domain name doesn't mean it comes under UK law. As I found when I contacted my MP about a &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/09/birthday-result-artrosilium-website.html"&gt;quack arthritis product called Artrosilium&lt;/a&gt; and put a written question to the Department of Health, the UK's position is that &lt;blockquote&gt;The importation of medicines by individuals for their own personal use or for use by a family member is exempt from regulatory controls, and this includes purchases from the internet.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Dawn Primarolo signed the letter. Trading Standards have &lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8178959.stm"&gt;recently been warning people&lt;/a&gt; about false confidence in '.co.uk' websites with consumer goods - surely untested imported medicines with their uncontrolled, unregulated ingredients should be given higher priority than a few knocked-off hair-straighteners?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So who runs the Smoker Stop Shop (www.smokerstopshop.co.uk)? That is one Penelope Walford, who runs a private clinic in Harley Street and refers to herself as a &lt;a href="http://www.penelopewalford.com/smokingindex.html"&gt;'smoking cessation specialist'&lt;/a&gt; using hypnotherapy as her main tool. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[&lt;a href="http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab001008.html"&gt;A Cochrane Review&lt;/a&gt; asking "Does hypnotherapy help people who are trying to stop smoking" concluded that &lt;blockquote&gt;We have not shown that hypnotherapy has a greater effect on six month quit rates than other interventions or no treatment.&lt;/blockquote&gt; So much for that, then. No doubt she has many positive testamonials - most placebo treatments do, and present them in place  of real evidence]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So how can Penelope Walford sell homeopathic products in the UK with therapeutic indications, which is against the law? I've asked MHRA the same question - I'll let you know the response.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The idea that homeopathy can do something for smokers to help them kick the habit is quite widespread. Other UK-based companies that seem to be up against the law are &lt;a href="http://www.bodyandmindshop.com/product/HomeopathicStopSmoking.html"&gt;The Body and Mind shop&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://i-quit.co.uk/what.shtml"&gt;i-Quit&lt;/a&gt;, with the &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2006/jan/07/healthandwellbeing.features"&gt;media&lt;/a&gt;, helpful as ever, to &lt;a href="http://www.sofeminine.co.uk/fitness/05tabac/05tabac1__cat=3&amp;page=2&amp;-Homeopathy.html"&gt;give a hand&lt;/a&gt; to evidence-free nonsense. Yet surprisingly, few of them seem to require the major magic ingredient that known to give results - willpower.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;H/t to &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/Blue_Wode"&gt;Blue Wode&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-4656188596198346175?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/4656188596198346175/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/08/magic-smokescreen-homeopathy-cigarettes.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/4656188596198346175'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/4656188596198346175'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/08/magic-smokescreen-homeopathy-cigarettes.html' title='Magic Smokescreen - homeopathy &amp; cigarettes'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-4287784304520118375</id><published>2009-07-29T00:13:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2009-07-29T10:00:23.914+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Simon Singh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='British Chiropractic Association'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General Chiropractic Council'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chiropractic'/><title type='text'>Beware The Spinal Trap - Lawyer-friendly reprint</title><content type='html'>Just in case you haven't been to your chiropractor in the last little while due to the recession, there has been a maelstrom.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Science writer Simon Singh wrote an article for the Guardian which the British Chiropractic Association claimed libelled them and so went the way of the courts. Justice Eady decided there were words used which conveyed a meaning which Singh had not intended, but that the case should go to trial nonetheless. Singh is appealing the decision.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the meantime, the searchlight of skepticism was directed towards chiropractic. Hundreds of complaints were sent to the General Chiropractic Council meaning the &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-unable-to.html"&gt;GCC were unable to cope&lt;/a&gt; with the volume of complaints and causing some &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/before-every-action-ask-yourself-will.html"&gt;chiropractors to rapidly remove or rehash their websites&lt;/a&gt;, with some of them throwing in the towel and admitting that &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/07/chiropractors-admit-chiropractic-has.html"&gt;Chiropractic has never cured anyone of anything&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sense about Science has been working with Singh to &lt;a href="http://www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/freedebate/"&gt;campaign to keep libel laws out of science&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As part of that, they have arranged for Singh's original article to be scanned by lawyers, have the few words removed that were called into question, so that the article can be reprinted without fear of libel. The important point of this article is that, the whole feel, meaning and impetus is unchanged by the removal of a few contentious words. The thrust of the article is the statement of fact that there is little/no evidence for most (all?) of the claims of chiropractic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am pleased to reprint the lawyer-friendly article below - it should also be noted that the BCA have no issue (and therefore tacitly agree with?) everything in the article below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Beware the spinal trap&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Some practitioners claim it is a cure-all, but the research suggests chiropractic therapy has mixed results – and can even be lethal, says Simon Singh.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You might be surprised to know that the founder of chiropractic therapy, Daniel David Palmer, wrote that “99% of all diseases are caused by displaced vertebrae”. In the 1860s, Palmer began to develop his theory that the spine was involved in almost every illness because the spinal cord connects the brain to the rest of the body. Therefore any misalignment could cause a problem in distant parts of the body.&lt;br /&gt;In fact, Palmer’s first chiropractic intervention supposedly cured a man who had been profoundly deaf for 17 years. His second treatment was equally strange, because he claimed that he treated a patient with heart trouble by correcting a displaced vertebra.&lt;br /&gt;You might think that modern chiropractors restrict themselves to treating back problems, but in fact some still possess quite wacky ideas. The fundamentalists argue that they can cure anything, including helping treat children with colic, sleeping and feeding problems, frequent ear infections, asthma and prolonged crying – even though there is not a jot of evidence.&lt;br /&gt;I can confidently label these assertions as utter nonsense because I have co-authored a book about alternative medicine with the world’s first professor of complementary medicine, Edzard Ernst. He learned chiropractic techniques himself and used them as a doctor. This is when he began to see the need for some critical evaluation. Among other projects, he examined the evidence from 70 trials exploring the benefits of chiropractic therapy in conditions unrelated to the back. He found no evidence to suggest that chiropractors could treat any such conditions.&lt;br /&gt;But what about chiropractic in the context of treating back problems? Manipulating the spine can cure some problems, but results are mixed. To be fair, conventional approaches, such as physiotherapy, also struggle to treat back problems with any consistency. Nevertheless, conventional therapy is still preferable because of the serious dangers associated with chiropractic.&lt;br /&gt;In 2001, a systematic review of five studies revealed that roughly half of all chiropractic patients experience temporary adverse effects, such as pain, numbness, stiffness, dizziness and headaches. These are relatively minor effects, but the frequency is very high, and this has to be weighed against the limited benefit offered by chiropractors.&lt;br /&gt;More worryingly, the hallmark technique of the chiropractor, known as high-velocity, low-amplitude thrust, carries much more significant risks. This involves pushing joints beyond their natural range of motion by applying a short, sharp force. Although this is a safe procedure for most patients, others can suffer dislocations and fractures.&lt;br /&gt;Worse still, manipulation of the neck can damage the vertebral arteries, which supply blood to the brain. So-called vertebral dissection can ultimately cut off the blood supply, which in turn can lead to a stroke and even death. Because there is usually a delay between the vertebral dissection and the blockage of blood to the brain, the link between chiropractic and strokes went unnoticed for many years. Recently, however, it has been possible to identify cases where spinal manipulation has certainly been the cause of vertebral dissection.&lt;br /&gt;Laurie Mathiason was a 20-year-old Canadian waitress who visited a chiropractor 21 times between 1997 and 1998 to relieve her low-back pain. On her penultimate visit she complained of stiffness in her neck. That evening she began dropping plates at the restaurant, so she returned to the chiropractor. As the chiropractor manipulated her neck, Mathiason began to cry, her eyes started to roll, she foamed at the mouth and her body began to convulse. She was rushed to hospital, slipped into a coma and died three days later. At the inquest, the coroner declared: “Laurie died of a ruptured vertebral artery, which occurred in association with a chiropractic manipulation of the neck.”&lt;br /&gt;This case is not unique. In Canada alone there have been several other women who have died after receiving chiropractic therapy, and Edzard Ernst has identified about 700 cases of serious complications among the medical literature. This should be a major concern for health officials, particularly as under-reporting will mean that the actual number of cases is much higher.&lt;br /&gt;If spinal manipulation were a drug with such serious adverse effects and so little demonstrable benefit, then it would almost certainly have been taken off the market.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Simon Singh is a science writer in London and the co-author, with Edzard Ernst, of Trick or Treatment? Alternative Medicine on Trial. This is an edited version of an article published in The Guardian for which Singh is being personally sued for libel by the British Chiropractic Association.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-4287784304520118375?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/4287784304520118375/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/07/beware-spinal-trap-lawyer-friendly.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/4287784304520118375'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/4287784304520118375'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/07/beware-spinal-trap-lawyer-friendly.html' title='Beware The Spinal Trap - Lawyer-friendly reprint'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-1237214399622418256</id><published>2009-07-19T17:29:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2009-07-19T17:56:37.857+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='acupuncture'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bandolier'/><title type='text'>Acupuncture needles no good as toothpicks...</title><content type='html'>...yet funny enough toothpicks are just as good as acupuncture needles for providing relief of lower back pain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The reference is &lt;blockquote&gt;DC Cherkin et al. A randomized trial comparing acupuncture, simulated acupuncture, and usual care for chronic low back pain. Archives of Internal Medicine 2009 169: 858-866&lt;/blockquote&gt; but evidence-based healthcare knowledge collater, Bandolier has written a plain, easy-to-digest synopsis of the paper &lt;a href="http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/painpag/Chronrev/Other/acuback.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The study looked at four therapies; individualised acupuncture, standardised acupuncture, simulated acupuncture with toothpicks and lastly, usual care. From Bandolier:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;This large trial involved 638 adults, with follow up of 90% or above up to 52 weeks. Participants had an average age of about 47 years, with about 60% being women. About 70% had back pain for at least a year. The average initial RMDQ score was about 10.5 on a 0-24 scale, and average initial bothersomeness score 5 on a 0-10 scale.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The main results were these:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * There was &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;no difference&lt;/span&gt; between individualised acupuncture, standardised acupuncture, or sham acupuncture.&lt;br /&gt;    * RMDQ scores fell from 11 to 6 for acupuncture of any sort by 52 weeks, compared with 7.9 for usual care. &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Any form of acupuncture was better than usual care&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;    * Bothersomeness scores fell from 5 to 3-5 to 4 for all four groups, with no difference between them.&lt;br /&gt;    * &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Use of medications (about 65% at baseline) fell to 47% with acupuncture&lt;/span&gt;, but remained at 59% with usual care.&lt;br /&gt;    * There was no difference in SF-36 mental and physical component scores.&lt;br /&gt;    * Cutting down on usual activities for more than seven days in the last month at 52 weeks was more common with usual care (18%) than with acupuncture.&lt;br /&gt;    * More participants with usual care missed work or school for more than a day (16%) than with acupuncture (5%-10%).&lt;br /&gt;    * &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;There was no difference in total costs of back related health services between groups ($160-$221), though costs of acupuncture were not included.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Adverse events occurred in 12/315 with real acupuncture, compared with 0/162 for simulated acupuncture, with one serious adverse event for real acupuncture.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * One patient in the usual care group went on to have back surgery.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are a few interesting things that came out of the study.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The difference between standard care and intervention is significant, and confirms &lt;a href="http://www.badscience.net/2008/08/my-placebo-programme-on-bbc-radio-4/"&gt;previous discussions&lt;/a&gt; suggesting the more theatrical the intervention the larger the placebo effect.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secondy, the cost comparison is interesting - no real cost difference, and indeed acupuncture costs weren't included. So even the 'cost effective' argument is unfounded.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thirdly, adverse effects - one serious adverse effect and 12 lesser, compared with zero for the toothpicks. This means about 4% of the patients had an adverse effect from a treatment which had absolutely no demonstrable benefit compared to toothpickery. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So let's see: there's no patient benefit, no cost benefit and increased risk of adverse effects. So why are &lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8068427.stm"&gt;NICE approving it&lt;/a&gt; for lower backpain? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps I'll drop them a line.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(How long do you reckon it'll be before a quackupuncturist declares that this proves acupuncture works, and the toothpicks were "accidently" letting the &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Qi &lt;/span&gt;energy move as it should?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-1237214399622418256?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/1237214399622418256/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/07/acupuncture-needles-no-good-as.html#comment-form' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/1237214399622418256'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/1237214399622418256'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/07/acupuncture-needles-no-good-as.html' title='Acupuncture needles no good as toothpicks...'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-1069614539075673462</id><published>2009-07-13T12:43:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2009-07-13T13:04:28.503+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Simon Singh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='British Chiropractic Association'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General Chiropractic Council'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chiropractic'/><title type='text'>General Chiropractic Council unable to cope with complaints</title><content type='html'>According to a letter shown to this blog, the General Chiropractic Council has written to complainants and chiropractors saying that it can not cope with the number of complaints it has received (590 last month compared with 40 per year). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The GCC have stated that &lt;blockquote&gt;it will be necessary to increase our regulatory staff capacity before we issue formal notification of any complaints relating to chiropractic websites.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The lack of staff will delay the commencement of the formal process until September 2009. The &lt;a href="http://www.zenosblog.com/2009/06/omnibus-complaint-to-general.html"&gt;increase in complaints&lt;/a&gt; was &lt;a href="http://jackofkent.blogspot.com/2009/05/reputation-of-british-chiropractic.html"&gt;due to the&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Chiropractic_Association"&gt;British Chiropractic Association's&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=555"&gt;attempt&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href="http://www.dcscience.net/?p=1775"&gt;silence criticism&lt;/a&gt; about &lt;a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/how-british-chiropractic-association.html"&gt;claims for chiropractic&lt;/a&gt; being an &lt;a href="http://holfordwatch.info/2009/06/18/british-chiropractic-association-bca-demonstrate-what-evidence-based-medicine-isnt/"&gt;evidence-free&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://layscience.net/node/548"&gt;zone&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the BCA had been a bit less foolish, it could have avoided this whole debacle, but it appears that it was spoiling for a fight, and is &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/07/chiropractors-admit-chiropractic-has.html"&gt;looking pretty groggy&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-1069614539075673462?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/1069614539075673462/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-unable-to.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/1069614539075673462'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/1069614539075673462'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/07/general-chiropractic-council-unable-to.html' title='General Chiropractic Council unable to cope with complaints'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-4933646657907127365</id><published>2009-07-08T22:14:00.008+01:00</published><updated>2009-09-08T09:28:33.672+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='menstrual pains'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Carpal Tunnel Syndrome'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='glasgow chiropractic'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chiropractic'/><title type='text'>Chiropractors admit "Chiropractic has never cured anyone of anything"</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;PLEASE NOTE Since writing this blog, Glasgow Chiro have revamped their webpage, hence some of the links may no longer work. A more recent article on Glasgow CHiro's website can be found &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/09/update-on-glasgow-chiropractic.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Recently, &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/say-goodbye-to-colic-easy-way.html"&gt;I blogged about&lt;/a&gt; Glasgow Chiropractic changing their website to remove references to colic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Previous posts on this site have demonstrated that evidence-free claims about the ability of chiropractors to cure/treat &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/chiropractic-for-menstrual-pains-no.html"&gt;period pains&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/chiropractics-claim-wrist-action-but.html"&gt;carpal tunnel syndrome&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/chiropractors-take-money-for-trying-to.html"&gt;asthma&lt;/a&gt; are routinely appearing on chiropractor's websites - in the blogposts above, I linked to Glasgow Chiropractic as an example.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A specific complaint about the contents of their website had been sent to the GCC and so, using &lt;a href="http://www.changedetection.com/"&gt;www.changedetection.com&lt;/a&gt;, I was able to see how Glasgow Chiropractic would react.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a pleasant surprise, the chiropractors seem they have come over all hand-wringy and repentant and have updated their website accordingly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The change detection page for menstrual pain is &lt;a href="http://www.changedetection.com/log/glasgowchiropractic/menstrual-pain_log.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and the one for shoulder pain and carpal tunnel syndrome is &lt;a href="http://www.changedetection.com/log/glasgowchiropractic/shoulder-pain_log.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. You can see the changes made by clicking on " View changes:   2009-07-08 13:57" about half way down on the left hand side.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The new page on shoulder pain is &lt;a href="http://www.glasgowchiropractic.com/pages/shoulder-pain.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and contains the bold title &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Chiropractic has never cured anyone of anything.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt; Wow. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Quite an admission, although one that is completely backed up by research data. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The new addition to the website goes on to say:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;If we go looking for the named condition that Chiropractic can be applied to and produce change in we will find ourselves in a merry-go-round of symptoms, loosing [sic] sight of the whole because of an obsession with the parts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So the question of What can Chiropractic Cure should be changed to "How" can Chiropractic Assist? The answer is simple. A well functioning mind and body has a greater opportunity to heal, repair and function than a poorly functioning one. A well functioning mind and body depends to a significant degree on a well functioning spine and nerve system. This is Chiropractic's contribution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;People find that chiropractic's ability to produce better spine and nerve system function changes their life expression. There are thousands of symptoms and conditions that chiropractic has been associated with helping, however don't ask "Can Chiropractic Cure this or that condition" - instead ask "If my mind and body was functioning better through Chiropractic would I be better placed to handle this condition?"&lt;/blockquote&gt; Have you got that? Don't ask "can chiropractic cure". Just don't. Ask a different question if you must, but don't ask if it can cure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.glasgowchiropractic.com/pages/menstrual-pain.html"&gt;page on menstrual pain&lt;/a&gt; contains an almost identical admission along with postmodern flakery but has some interesting text manipulations further down (new text in bold, previous text in brackets/italics)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Chiropractic management of dysmenorrhoea&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;helping&lt;/span&gt; (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;treating&lt;/span&gt;) women who suffer from dysmenorrhea, the majority of chiropractors address only problems located in the areas directly involved in causing the symptoms. In a study conducted to establish &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;which styles of Chiropractic care&lt;/span&gt; (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;treatments&lt;/span&gt;) are most frequently used by chiropractors for dysmenorrhea, manipulation was used in 100% of the cases.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Read that last sentence again in its old and new forms - the meaning has been changed to the point of silliness. Although perhaps they are now referring to a different study? Who knows.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;A chiropractor’s role is to normalise the functions of the body by correcting spinal problems. The rationale behind the chiropractic &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;management&lt;/span&gt; (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;treatment&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; of &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;women suffering from&lt;/span&gt; dysmenorrhea is to &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;deal with&lt;/span&gt; (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;treat)&lt;/span&gt; its spinal and skeletal aspect.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chiropractic provides the mechanisms through which dysmenorrheic women can be relieved of their pain in a drug-free environment and even go on to live a life free of period pain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;How&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; (What)&lt;/span&gt; can &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Chiropractic assist with&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; (a Chiropractor do for)&lt;/span&gt; menstrual pain?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your chiropractor will perform a complete consult and examination and may take radiographs (x rays) &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;if clinically required.&lt;/span&gt;). After review of the examination findings your chiropractor will recommend an appropriate and individual care program. &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Chiropractic care&lt;/span&gt; (&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Treatment&lt;/span&gt;) consists of specific manual adjustments, to the individual joints of the body and spine, which restore damaged neurologic function. As Grey’s Anatomy text states every single organ in the body is controlled by the nervous system. This includes the uterus and reproductive systems. Through the specific adjustment your chiropractor provides neurological &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;input&lt;/span&gt; (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;imput&lt;/span&gt;) that allows your nervous system, and so your organs, to adapt to environmental stresses. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So by changing the word 'treat' to 'help' or similar, that makes it all ok. It's good to see that the X-rays are now only done 'if clinically required'. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Will that ever be the case if chiropractic has never cured anyone of anything?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-4933646657907127365?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/4933646657907127365/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/07/chiropractors-admit-chiropractic-has.html#comment-form' title='25 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/4933646657907127365'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/4933646657907127365'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/07/chiropractors-admit-chiropractic-has.html' title='Chiropractors admit &quot;Chiropractic has never cured anyone of anything&quot;'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>25</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-1272443512856806045</id><published>2009-07-01T17:04:00.004+01:00</published><updated>2009-07-07T08:22:19.715+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nelson&apos;s'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homeopathy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MHRA'/><title type='text'>MHRA publish public assessment of homeopathic arnica, admit it does nothing, but license it anyway</title><content type='html'>Just off so no time to blog this properly, but back in May &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/homeopathy-regulation-and-mhra.html"&gt;I blogged about&lt;/a&gt; the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency giving their blessing to Nelson's selling homeopathic arnica with therapeutic indications.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The full report is now published and can be found &lt;a href=" http://www.mhra.gov.uk/home/groups/par/documents/websiteresources/con049307.pdf"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A few choice quotes for your discussion:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The homeopathic medicinal product consists of white to off-white spherical pillules&lt;br /&gt;for oral administration, containing 30c (GHP) Arnica montana. It is used for the&lt;br /&gt;symptomatic relief of sprains, muscular aches and bruising and swelling after&lt;br /&gt;contusions. Two pillules should be taken every 2 hours for the first six doses, then&lt;br /&gt;four times daily until symptoms improve for up to a maximum of 7 days.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The excipients used to manufacture the homeopathic medicinal product are lactose,&lt;br /&gt;sucrose and purified water.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Oh, no arnica then?&lt;br /&gt;This bit is utterly laughable:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Published scientific literature review&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The applicant has provided a bibliographic reference documenting a summary of&lt;br /&gt;clinical trials using arnica in homeopathic dilutions. The summary refers to studies&lt;br /&gt;where Arnica had been administered in a number of clinical conditions.&lt;br /&gt;The applicant has also provided further details of eleven published clinical studies&lt;br /&gt;investigating the clinical effects of arnica. The studies were performed under&lt;br /&gt;randomised, double blind conditions and were carried out to investigate the post&lt;br /&gt;operative clinical actions of arnica, such as pain relief and bruising.&lt;br /&gt;The results of the clinical trials and studies provided were not conclusive in&lt;br /&gt;establishing the clinical effects of arnica but indicated that there may be a trend&lt;br /&gt;towards demonstrating some beneficial effects of arnica in some situations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll be contacting the MHRA as they seem to have omitted an important safety concern - how do I know that what is in the pack is what is on the label? Both you, I, MHRA and Nelson's know it is impossible to tell.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-1272443512856806045?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/1272443512856806045/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/07/mhra-publish-public-assessment-of.html#comment-form' title='19 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/1272443512856806045'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/1272443512856806045'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/07/mhra-publish-public-assessment-of.html' title='MHRA publish public assessment of homeopathic arnica, admit it does nothing, but license it anyway'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>19</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-7525838360926333828</id><published>2009-06-26T17:27:00.013+01:00</published><updated>2009-06-26T18:06:54.725+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Simon Singh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='British Chiropractic Association'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='McTimoney Chiropractic'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='CNHC'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='glasgow chiropractic'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General Chiropractic Council'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='BCA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chiropractic'/><title type='text'>Say goodbye to colic the easy way!</title><content type='html'>.... by deleting it from your website, indeed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Previous posts on this site have demonstrated that evidence-free claims about the ability of chiropractors to cure/treat &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/chiropractic-for-menstrual-pains-no.html"&gt;period pains&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/chiropractics-claim-wrist-action-but.html"&gt;carpal tunnel syndrome&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/chiropractors-take-money-for-trying-to.html"&gt;asthma&lt;/a&gt; are routinely appearing on chiropractor's websites - in the blogposts above, I linked to Glasgow Chiropractic as an example.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[&lt;a href="http://godknowswhat.wordpress.com/2009/05/16/simon-singh-case-response-roundup/"&gt;Many other bloggers&lt;/a&gt; are carrying out similar investigations into chiropractic claims, in light of the British Chiropractic Association's spectacularly bad decision &lt;a href="http://www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/index.php/site/project/340"&gt;to sue&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Singh"&gt;Simon Singh&lt;/a&gt; for stating there was no evidence for many of Chiropractic's claims of efficacy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a result, &lt;a href="http://www.zenosblog.com/2009/06/quacklash-backlash.html"&gt;a number of complaints&lt;/a&gt; have been put to the General Chiropractic Council, and McTimoney Chiropractic, a professional body for a branch of chiropractic, &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/before-every-action-ask-yourself-will.html"&gt;sent out an edict&lt;/a&gt; to its members to shut down their websites, for fear of investigation.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the complaints to GCC was about Glasgow Chiropractic's claims on their website and so, using the power of the intertubes, and &lt;a href="http://www.changedetection.com"&gt;changedetection.com&lt;/a&gt;, a page monitor for two of Glasgow Chiropractic's pages was set up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This week, the first &lt;a href="http://www.changedetection.com/log/glasgowchiropractic/shoulder-pain_log.html"&gt;notice of change&lt;/a&gt; appeared. This provides a comparison of the old site with the changed one - click on 'View Changes' about half way down the page on the left hnd side. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notice on the left hand side in the yellow box, the word 'Colic' with a line through it. (You'll see the &lt;a href="http://www.glasgowchiropractic.com/pages/shoulder-pain.html"&gt;new page&lt;/a&gt; has the word 'Colic' removed). They've decided that chiropractic is no longer useful for treating colic. No need to tell anyone though, just say goodbye by deleting it from your website in a wonderfully Orwellian way. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;The internets never forget though.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[In a similar fashion, the Complementary and Natural Healthcare Council got caught playing a seemingly dishonest game, by &lt;a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/government-bails-out-ofquack-as-it.html"&gt;editing old press releases&lt;/a&gt; to remove undesirable targets they had set themselves.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-7525838360926333828?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/7525838360926333828/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/say-goodbye-to-colic-easy-way.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7525838360926333828'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7525838360926333828'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/say-goodbye-to-colic-easy-way.html' title='Say goodbye to colic the easy way!'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-9041380935609148424</id><published>2009-06-10T10:12:00.012+01:00</published><updated>2009-06-10T18:26:15.609+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Simon Singh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='McTimoney Chiropractic'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chiropractic'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='monkeys'/><title type='text'>"Before every action ask yourself - Will this bring more monkeys on my back?" - Chiropractors react to legal decision</title><content type='html'>So said Alfred A Montapert. The full quote is:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Before every action ask yourself - will this bring more monkeys on my back? Will the result of my action be a blessing or a heavy burden?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His words seem extremely relevant in light of the recent &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/chiropractic-totally-bogus-dude.html"&gt;chiropractic debacle&lt;/a&gt;. In short, the British Chiropractic Association is suing science writer Simon Singh for remarks made about the &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/chiropractic-for-menstrual-pains-no.html"&gt;lack&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/chiropractics-claim-wrist-action-but.html"&gt;of&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/chiropractors-take-money-for-trying-to.html"&gt;evidence&lt;/a&gt; for chiropractic. This has led to the searchlight of skepticism being shone in every corner of the chiro world. Their actions have lead to many more monkeys on their back and the result is a heavy burden for the chiropractic community.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In some astonishing developments brought to light by &lt;a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/chiropractors-told-to-take-down-their.html"&gt;The Quackometer&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2009/06/10/mctimoney-chiropractic/"&gt;Gimpyblog&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.layscience.net/node/593"&gt;The Lay Scientist&lt;/a&gt; via &lt;a href="http://chiropracticlive.com/advertising-standards/the-mctimoney-chiropractic-association-would-seem-to-believe-that-chiropractic-is-ldquo-bogus-rdquo/"&gt;chiropracticlive.com&lt;/a&gt;, McTimoney Chiropractic Association (a chiro representation body) has issued an &lt;a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/chiropractors-told-to-take-down-their.html"&gt;email&lt;/a&gt; telling all McTimoney Chiropractors to remove their websites, remove any claims of cure/help for which there is not evidence (i.e. practically of it), along with the following chiller:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;IF YOU DO NOT FOLLOW THIS ADVICE, YOU MAY BE AT RISK FROM PROSECUTION. IF YOU DO NOT FOLLOW THIS ADVICE, THE MCA MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ASSIST YOU WITH ANY PROCEEDINGS.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.mctimoney-chiropractic.org/"&gt;McTimoney website&lt;/a&gt; itself now only has a basic holding page. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A McTimoney Chiropractor, Jo Hanstead, used to have this page on her website (note the reference to period pains, debunked in &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/chiropractic-for-menstrual-pains-no.html"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; blogpost), the others have a similar lack of evidence:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/Si99x_aN_nI/AAAAAAAAAHw/XiulTDfnzeQ/s1600-h/mctimoney.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 242px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/Si99x_aN_nI/AAAAAAAAAHw/XiulTDfnzeQ/s320/mctimoney.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5345629580500532850" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It now reads like &lt;a href="http://www.johanstead.co.uk/mctimoneyhome.html"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Emails shown to this blog from Jo Hanstead regarding chiropractic help with arthritis included the following information:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I usually find that treatment can relieve some/all symptoms, depending of course exactly what is going on. Most people with hip problems have a pelvis that is way out of balance. Balancing the pelvis changes the dynamics at the hip joint, and improves the nerve supply.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I read this to be a strong endorsement of chiropractic for arthritis, for which there is no evidence. When questioned about the evidence, this was extremely telling response:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Trouble is, complementary medicine does not have the money pharmaceutical companies have, nor are theralpes [sic] amenable to double blind trials, hence going at it by research publiched [sic] may not get you a realistic viewpoint.&lt;/blockquote&gt; So the claim is that chiropractic can relieve the symptoms of arthritis, but evidence is not available because of lack of funds alog with special pleading that double blind trials are not suitable. Utter nonsense. There are many, many double-blind, sham-treatment controlled, research papers into chiropractic and other manipulation therapies. This reply is just a smokescreen to try and disguise the fact that the evidence is weak to non-existant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The various chiropractic associations are now wishing they had thought more carefully about the fall-out of the BCA's decision to sue Simon Singh. The number of monkeys is increasing every day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;EDIT: Zeno has also covered the story &lt;a href="http://www.zenosblog.com/2009/06/dont-panic-mr-mainwaring.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, DC is covering the story &lt;a href="http://www.dcscience.net/?p=1686"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, JDC's coverage is &lt;a href="http://jdc325.wordpress.com/2009/06/10/remarkable-withdrawal/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and Frank @ SciencePunk has posted his post &lt;a href="http://scienceblogs.com/sciencepunk/2009/06/panicking_chiropractors_order.php"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-9041380935609148424?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/9041380935609148424/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/before-every-action-ask-yourself-will.html#comment-form' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/9041380935609148424'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/9041380935609148424'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/before-every-action-ask-yourself-will.html' title='&quot;Before every action ask yourself - Will this bring more monkeys on my back?&quot; - Chiropractors react to legal decision'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/Si99x_aN_nI/AAAAAAAAAHw/XiulTDfnzeQ/s72-c/mctimoney.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-1841840073933306075</id><published>2009-06-09T16:48:00.006+01:00</published><updated>2009-06-14T21:10:52.570+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chiropractic. Simon Singh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='asthma'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General Chiropractic Council'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chiropractic'/><title type='text'>Chiropractors take money for trying to relieve asthma, despite a lack of evidence. What a wheeze!</title><content type='html'>Previous blogposts on this site have demonstrated how a collation of published research, gathered by the independent body, The Cochrane Collaboration, has shown that there is no evidence that chiropractic can relieve &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/chiropractic-for-menstrual-pains-no.html"&gt;menstrual pains&lt;/a&gt; or is any better than placebo or control at relieving &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/chiropractics-claim-wrist-action-but.html"&gt;carpal tunnel syndrome&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another common claim by chiropractors is that chiropractic can relieve asthma. Asthma is a complex chronic clinical condition - airway inflammation contributes to airway hyperresponsiveness, airflow limitation,&lt;br /&gt;respiratory symptoms, and disease chronicity. (National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute .pdf &lt;a href="Airway inflammation contributes to airway hyperresponsiveness, airflow limitation, respiratory symptoms, and disease chronicity."&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is no cure for asthma, but there are a number of treatments that can normally manage the condition. Treatment is based on two important goals:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * Relief of symptoms.&lt;br /&gt;    * Preventing future symptoms from developing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Successful prevention can be achieved through a combination of medicines, lifestyle advice and identifying and then avoiding potential asthma triggers.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Taken from the &lt;a href="http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/asthma/Pages/Introduction.aspx"&gt;NHS website.&lt;/a&gt; As with carpal tunnel syndrome and menstrual pain, asthma is a condition which can be difficult to treat, can cause pain and inconvenience and is reasonably common - the NHS website suggests about 5 million people suffer from it in the UK. These is a classic situation for complementary and alternative medicine to step in and offer relief. The barrier to success is laid so low, as the patient is ready to try anything (regardless of evidence or how 'creative' the therapy is) just to get some respite from the condition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As with carpal tunnel syndrome and menstrual pain, the Cochrane Collaboration has published a review on the evidence available for asthma relief by chiropractic and can be found &lt;a href="http://mrw.interscience.wiley.com/cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001002/frame.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. (The abstract and conclusions can be found &lt;a href="http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab001002.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Cochrane research published in 2005 came to the following conclusion:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;There is insufficient evidence to support the use of manual therapies for patients with asthma&lt;/span&gt;. There is a need to conduct adequately-sized RCTs that examine the effects of manual therapies on clinically relevant outcomes. Future trials should maintain observer blinding for outcome assessments, and report on the costs of care and adverse events. Currently, there is insufficient evidence to support or refute the use of manual therapy for patients with asthma&lt;/blockquote&gt; The hesitance in the last line is due to poorly-run trial using massage therapy that indicated some benefit, however that is outwith of chiropractic. The author notes that the best run trial between chiropractic and sham treatment found no significant difference.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Any chiropractor who keeps up to date with the research (as is required by General Chiropractic Council’s Code of Practice and Standard of Proficiency - .pdf &lt;a href="http://www.gcc-uk.org/files/link_file/COPSOP_Dec05_WEB(with_glossary)07Jan09.pdf"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) would surely not advertise that chiropractic can help with asthma, or if they had been advertising it, would remove such a claim from their site. A quick search of Google shows that plenty of Chiropractors are seemingly happy to advertise asthma relief despite lack of evidence to back up the claims and therefore contravening their Code of Practice. (I mean, no-one would advertise asthma relief *knowing* that there was no evidence, right?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As with the previous two ailments, &lt;a href="http://www.glasgowchiropractic.com/pages/asthma.html"&gt;Glasgow Chiropractic&lt;/a&gt; is forthright in its misguided belief of asthma help:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The chiropractor will make a detailed examination of the spine, which may include x-ray. He will then decide which misalignment of the spine requires manipulation in order to correct the problem. Correcting the misalignment can halt the chain of events which lead to closing of the airways and asthma attacks, resulting in symptomatic relief and a reduction in frequency of attacks&lt;/blockquote&gt; Fulham Wellness Chiropractic Clinic has decided that:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Chiropractic care can help improve the patient's neurological status and respiratory function through stress management, lifestyle and dietary advise together with specific joint adjustments and exercises.&lt;/blockquote&gt; I wonder how much is down to the chiropractic - the evidence suggests not a jot. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.chiropractorsbrighton.co.uk/new_patients.htm"&gt;Chiropractors Brighton&lt;/a&gt; think:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Chiropractic care can help children with asthma&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.chiropractichealthcentres.co.uk/what-we-treat/"&gt;Chiropractic Health Centres&lt;/a&gt;, based in London reckon:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Most common symptoms helped by Chiropractic are asthma, colic and repetitive ear infections.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Many other chiropractic practices like &lt;a href="http://www.emersonsgreenchiropracticclinic.com/conditions.html"&gt;Emerson's Green Chiropractic&lt;/a&gt; near Bristol also claim asthma as a treatable condition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How can the GCC claim to be regulating chiropractic when the treatments offered for specific ailments are not backed up by any worthwhile evidence?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As discussed prevously, the Cochrane Collaboration has reviewed the available research on menstrual research and carpal tunnel syndrome and found the evidence lacking compared with placebo or control. In many cases, Chiropractic practices are claiming to be able to treat these conditions despite a complete lack of evidence. This post has demonstrated that asthma can be added to that list.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Three strikes and you're out. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-1841840073933306075?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/1841840073933306075/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/chiropractors-take-money-for-trying-to.html#comment-form' title='18 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/1841840073933306075'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/1841840073933306075'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/chiropractors-take-money-for-trying-to.html' title='Chiropractors take money for trying to relieve asthma, despite a lack of evidence. What a wheeze!'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>18</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-3997150362733685007</id><published>2009-06-04T07:24:00.006+01:00</published><updated>2009-06-04T19:35:55.421+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Simon Singh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='British Chiropractic Association'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sense about science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chiropractic'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='quackometer'/><title type='text'>The Law Has No Place in Scientific Disputes</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/freedebate"&gt; &lt;img src="http://www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/images/sas-libel-2.png" width="180" height="66" alt="free debate" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Simon Singh has decided to appeal the illiberal ruling of Justice Eady, in &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/chiropractic-totally-bogus-dude.html"&gt;the nonsensical libel case brought&lt;/a&gt; by the British Chiropractic Association, over his use of the word 'bogus'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David Colquhoun's blog &lt;a href="http://www.dcscience.net/?p=1630"&gt;DC Science&lt;/a&gt; and Andy Lewis' &lt;a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/06/simon-singh-to-appeal-bogus-decision.html"&gt;Quackometer&lt;/a&gt; are leading the charge, along with science charity Sense About Science, who have launched the &lt;a href="http://www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/index.php/site/project/333/"&gt;"Keep Libel Laws Out of Science"&lt;/a&gt; campaign. Click &lt;a href="http://www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/index.php/site/project/337"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; to get the SaS button for your website.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Simon's Facebook page is &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=33457048634&amp;ref=ts"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and Simon writes in his own words &lt;a href="http://www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/index.php/site/project/340"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Jack of Kent has been following this story in full &lt;a href="http://jackofkent.blogspot.com/2009/06/libel-law-has-no-place-in-scientific.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyone in the midlands area free on Mon 8th June 2009, should make their way to the The Chequers Inn in Oxford, where Simon is the guest speaker at &lt;a href="http://oxford.skepticsinthepub.org/"&gt;Skeptics in the Pub (Oxford)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll see you there!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-3997150362733685007?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/3997150362733685007/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/law-has-no-place-in-scientific-disputes.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/3997150362733685007'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/3997150362733685007'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/law-has-no-place-in-scientific-disputes.html' title='The Law Has No Place in Scientific Disputes'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-224810547024115183</id><published>2009-06-01T13:43:00.013+01:00</published><updated>2009-06-08T13:02:47.257+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Simon Singh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='British Chiropractic Association'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Cochrane'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Carpal Tunnel Syndrome'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General Chiropractic Council'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chiropractic'/><title type='text'>Chiropractors claim wrist action, but evidence states no happy ending.</title><content type='html'>I'm talking about &lt;a href="http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Carpal-tunnel-syndrome/Pages/Whatisitfinal.aspx"&gt;Carpal Tunnel Syndrome&lt;/a&gt;(CTS) of course. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;CTS is a relatively common ailment, which causes a pins and needles sensation in the fingers and hands. The NHS website linked to above, estimates that almost 5% of women and 3% of men have CTS. Most cases of CTS develop in people who are between 45-64 years of age. People with mild to moderate symptoms usually respond well to non-surgical treatment, such as wrist splints and corticosteroids injections. However, more severe cases usually require surgery to reduce the pressure on the median nerve. Left untreated, CTS may lead to permanent nerve damage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So this is a common problem, ranging from very mild to severe, but at the painful end of the scale, surgery is the only option. &lt;a href="People with mild to moderate symptoms usually respond well to non-surgical treatment, such as wrist splints and corticosteroids injections. However, more severe cases usually require surgery to reduce the pressure on the median nerve.  Cases of CTS that occur during pregnancy usually resolve after the birth.  Left untreated, CTS may lead to permanent nerve damage."&gt;As with menstrual pain&lt;/a&gt;, the parameters are nicely set for quack therapies to offer hope of relief.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also like menstrual problems, the Cochrane Collaboration, an international not-for-profit and independent organization, dedicated to making up-to-date, accurate information about the effects of healthcare readily available worldwide, has published a &lt;a href="http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab003219.html"&gt;review on Carpal Tunnel Syndrome&lt;/a&gt;. In this case, it has looked at all the non-surgical therapies that have been discussed in the scientific literature, analysed the data and come up with some evidence-based conclusions:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Trials of magnet therapy, laser acupuncture, exercise &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;or chiropractic care did not demonstrate symptom benefit&lt;/span&gt; when compared to placebo (or control).&lt;/blockquote&gt; So the evidence gathered so far seems to be fairly clear and there is no reason why any self-respecting chiropractor would advertise that they could help CTS - it would be surely foolish?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Surprisingly (or perhaps not), the &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;deja vu&lt;/span&gt; continues - CTS, like &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/chiropractic-for-menstrual-pains-no.html"&gt;menstrual problems&lt;/a&gt;, is a prime complaint for alternative medicine; Like menstrual problems, it has a Cochrane Review which concludes that, based on published evidence, chiropractic is no better than placebo or control; and lastly and incredibly, like menstrual problems, appears on numerous chiropractic websites as a condition that they are able to successfully treat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For instance, see Dr (not medical) Chris Pickard of the Pain Relief Centres in Finchley and Hatfield, discussing carpal tunnel syndrome:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object name="iLyROoafJCxS" id="iLyROoafJCxS" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="http://sa.kewego.com/swf/p3/epix.swf" width="400" height="300"&gt;  &lt;param name="flashVars" value="language_code=en&amp;playerKey=09d651125dab&amp;skinKey=71703ed5cea1&amp;sig=iLyROoafJCxS&amp;autostart=false" /&gt;  &lt;param name="movie" value="http://sa.kewego.com/swf/p3/epix.swf" /&gt;  &lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /&gt;  &lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt; Dr (not medical) Chris doesn't seem to have read the evidence, but no doubt he has his 'own evidence' (anecdotes) as do homeopaths, faith healers, pendulum swingers, astrologers, mediums and any other branch of quackery and pseudoscience you can think of. (Incidentally, I haven't looked into Cold Laser treatment mentioned in the video, except to say that &lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17613571?ordinalpos=7&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum"&gt;a review in 2007 said there was 'conflicting evidence' as to its effectiveness)&lt;/a&gt;. I like the ice-cream van near the end of the video.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Glasgow Chiropractic, (&lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/chiropractic-for-menstrual-pains-no.html"&gt;once again&lt;/a&gt;) claim:&lt;blockquote&gt; [if] it is definitely carpal tunnel syndrome [...] a chiropractor can help greatly.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Not according to the evidence, they can't. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Roundhay Chiropractic in Leeds claims &lt;blockquote&gt;carpal tunnel syndrome [-] Chiropractic can help you recover quicker and with less pain.&lt;/blockquote&gt; The evidence suggests not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Other offenders include &lt;a href="http://www.thehealingclinic.co.uk/therapies/mctimoney-chiropractic.html"&gt;The Healing Clinic&lt;/a&gt; in York, &lt;a href="http://www.swindon.gov.uk/leisuresport/hydro/hydropractitioners/leisure-hydromctimoney.htm"&gt;Health Hydro &lt;/a&gt;(Swindon Borough Council website, if you're interested in complaining) in Swindon, the &lt;a href="http://www.thechiropractice.co.uk/the_chiro_practice_patient_info.php"&gt;Chiropractice&lt;/a&gt; in Cardiff, the &lt;a href="http://www.thechiropractice.co.uk/the_chiro_practice_patient_info.php"&gt;Chiropractic Clinic&lt;/a&gt; in Chester, and of course the &lt;a href="http://www.thepainreliefcentres.co.uk/Carpal-Tunnel-Syndrome.asp"&gt;Pain Relief Centre&lt;/a&gt; in Finchley, which boasts Chris Pickard from the above video.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are plenty more Chiropractors out there offering this quack treatment, despite the clear, available evidence that it is of no value over placebo or control. I have no idea whether these places are aware of the available evidence - if they are, then they are knowingly misleading and fraudulent (&lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/chiropractic-totally-bogus-dude.html"&gt;bogus&lt;/a&gt;, if you will), if they aren't, then their professional knowledge is questionable - would you want to be treated by someone who offers useless treatments, demonstrating their ignorance in &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;their&lt;/span&gt; supposedly specialised field? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Needless to say, the GCC will be made aware of this situation - will they just get a slap on the wrist?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-224810547024115183?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/224810547024115183/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/chiropractics-claim-wrist-action-but.html#comment-form' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/224810547024115183'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/224810547024115183'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/06/chiropractics-claim-wrist-action-but.html' title='Chiropractors claim wrist action, but evidence states no happy ending.'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-5950890751629339435</id><published>2009-05-28T22:50:00.018+01:00</published><updated>2009-05-29T00:12:01.390+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Prince Charles'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='foundation for integrated health'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ofquack'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='CNHC'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='FIH'/><title type='text'>"As part of our commitment to transparency, we are becoming less transparent" - Ofquack</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SYi_vOIiDCI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/yHa0GBCbN9Q/s200/ofquack.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 0 10px 10px;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 60px; height: 21px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SYi_vOIiDCI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/yHa0GBCbN9Q/s200/ofquack.jpg" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/Sh8InrAmBsI/AAAAAAAAAHo/W6LcqoYUels/s1600-h/CNHC+May21.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 198px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/Sh8InrAmBsI/AAAAAAAAAHo/W6LcqoYUels/s320/CNHC+May21.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5340997160737834690" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;This is how the &lt;a href="http://www.ofquack.org.uk"&gt;CNHC&lt;/a&gt; website looked on May 21st 2009 and &lt;a href="http://www.cnhc.org.uk/pages/index.cfm?page_id=113"&gt;here's&lt;/a&gt; how it looks now - see the difference?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I had &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/02/i-wish-to-register-complaint.html"&gt;previously written&lt;/a&gt; to Ben Bradshaw MP regarding CNHC, got a &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/03/department-of-health-response-to-cnhc.html"&gt;largely unsatisfactory reply&lt;/a&gt; and have to-ed and fro-ed again since then.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of my main issues was that the quack health lobby group, Prince Charles' Foundation for Integrated Health, &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/21/complementary-natural-heathcare-council"&gt;had received £900,000&lt;/a&gt; of Dept of Health funding (my and your taxes) to set up CNHC and yet, they were being opaque as to their operations. Seemingly by mistake, a CNHC staff member put the minutes of the Nov 08 meeting on the web, which contained discussions about 'misinformation on a blog' and infiltrating websites to promote CNHC. I should point out that the CNHC have stated the minutes were not OK-ed by the board and contained inaccuracies. At the time of writing, those minutes are still available on the CNHC website &lt;a href="http://www.cnhc.org.uk/assets/minutes_nov08.doc"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;(.doc file).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The website (shown above) continued to state until May 21st 09 that &lt;blockquote&gt;In order to meet our commitment to transparency, CNHC will make the minutes of board meetings appear here.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Rubbish. The Nov 08 minutes (and previous) never 'officially' appeared, nor did the Feb 09. From a letter I've seen from the Dept of Health, it appears that at the Feb 09 meeting, a decision was made &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;not &lt;/span&gt;to put the minutes on the website, but instead &lt;blockquote&gt;a synopsis of items for discussion and decision would be put on the website.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Seemingly, no need to update the website though.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's also interesting to note how many therapists are registered. Or it would be, if you could find out. Ever since &lt;a href="http://www.grcct.org/pdf.docs/cnhc_decline.pdf"&gt;a public spat (pdf)&lt;/a&gt; with the General Regulatory Council of Complimetary Therapies (&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4Z_b-06BDk"&gt;splitters....&lt;/a&gt;), even the potential number of sign-ups was always going to be difficult to establish. The CNHC also seem unable to provide an answer because they allow industry bodies to upload blocks of therapists - despite an &lt;a href="http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/details_of_membership_and_board#incoming-26610"&gt;FoI request &lt;/a&gt;response from the Dept of Health, which stated&lt;blockquote&gt;the [Professional Associations]cannot register their members with the CNHC. Rather, individual practitioners have to apply to the CNHC if they wish to be admitted to the&lt;br /&gt;register. &lt;/blockquote&gt;More muddle and confusion. One of the CNHC key objectives is to register 10,000 therapists by end of 2009, although I'm lead to believe the number is currently around 2,000.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So it seems the commitment to transparency has been discreetly removed - the &lt;a href="http://www.cnhc.org.uk/pages/index.cfm?page_id=113"&gt;new webpage&lt;/a&gt; on the CNHC website has dropped its 'commitment to transparency' tag (along with the word 'minutes') and replaced it with heavily edited meeting notes which contain such salacious gems as &lt;blockquote&gt;Various amendments and changes were agreed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;How useful. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I never did find out what they did with that £900,000.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-5950890751629339435?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/5950890751629339435/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/as-part-of-our-commitment-to.html#comment-form' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/5950890751629339435'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/5950890751629339435'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/as-part-of-our-commitment-to.html' title='&quot;As part of our commitment to transparency, we are becoming less transparent&quot; - Ofquack'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SYi_vOIiDCI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/yHa0GBCbN9Q/s72-c/ofquack.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-2616149882069399723</id><published>2009-05-27T20:40:00.010+01:00</published><updated>2009-05-28T09:18:23.309+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Malaria'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homeopathy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Guardian'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='neals yard'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MHRA'/><title type='text'>The Guardian brings all the nerds to the Yard, and they're like "it's quackery, yeah?"</title><content type='html'>With apologies to Kelis, and it doesn't even scan. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, not even a badly constructed blog title could take away from a funny little PR-disaster which happened today to Neal's Yard, courtesy of the Guardian and an internetful of geeks (that's the collective noun, surely? - feel free to provide suggestions below).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neal's Yard Remedies, the super-ethical, eco-aware health and cosmetics company, had agreed to take part in a Guardian series called &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/ethicallivingblog/2009/may/26/you-ask-neals-yard-remedies"&gt;"You ask, they answer"&lt;/a&gt;. In this feature, in the Ethical Living section of the Guardian, internetians were offered the chance to ask Neal's Yard Remedies any question they wanted, although they were generally supposed to be regarding organics and beauty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By finishing the article with the comment &lt;blockquote&gt;This is your chance to grill them: from the controversy surrounding the chain's removal of a homeopathic malaria remedy to the benefits and reasons to switch to organic beauty products.&lt;/blockquote&gt;it nicely teed up a complete &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwn"&gt;pwning&lt;/a&gt; of Neal's Yards' quackery division.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now perhaps you haven't been taking your &lt;a href="http://shop.nealsyardremedies.com/product/1844/CoEnzyme_Q10_30Mg_With_MCT_Veg_Caps"&gt;Co-Enzyme Q10 pills&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href="http://www.dcscience.net/?p=223"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; link may be more useful) or your &lt;a href="http://shop.nealsyardremedies.com/product/1260/100pc_Organic_PreSprouted_Aktivated_Barley_Powder"&gt;100% Organic Pre-Sprouted Aktivated Barley Powder&lt;/a&gt; so perhaps you've forgotten that Neal's Yard was the subject of a BBC documentary, investigating the sale of homeopathic prophylaxis for malaria. Unsurprisingly, they were concerned that Neal's Yard were selling an evidence-free sugar pill to protect people from a potentially fatal disease (doesn't seem very ethical to me). There is a transcript of the article &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/04/transript-of-susan-curtis-medicines.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and the YouTube version of it is &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTMH5s04ibE"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. It includes the bit where Susan Curtis, Neal's Yard's Medicines Director storms off in a huff after being made to look extremely foolish. The BBC investigation reported Neal's Yard to the regulatory authorities (MHRA), who promptly &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/05/neals-yard-get-gentle-slap-from-mhra.html"&gt;spanked their bottoms&lt;/a&gt; and forced them to &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/04/neals-yard-withdraw-homeopathic-malaria.html"&gt;remove the product&lt;/a&gt; from sale.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When it came to the Guardian article, the Nerds did not disappoint - after 5 pages of questions along the lines of &lt;blockquote&gt;Do you see no problem with trying to be 'ethical' while at the same time selling snake oil for a living? (SaltyCDogg)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Surely you don't view it as ethical to sell products which are of unproven benefit and which you don't even know are safe? (Puzzlebobble)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I'll buy the relief of stress and tension, especially if combined with massage, but what evidence is there for the elimination of toxins held in the body? What evidence is there that these toxins exist in the first place?(Peter Sterling)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;what is "healing energy"? What units is it measured in and where does it come from?(Tristanod)&lt;/blockquote&gt; Adam Vaughan from the Guardian came on to say &lt;blockquote&gt;have just had a chat with [Neal's Yard Remedies].&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately, despite previous assurances that they would be participating in this blog post, I've now been told they 'will not be taking part in the debate'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So yes, as several people have pointed out, this has become something of 'You Ask', rather than a 'You Ask, They Answer'. I'm still hoping NYR will reconsider.&lt;/blockquote&gt; (They have a habit of pulling out of PR events - apparently they were supposed to be &lt;a href="http://www.hortweek.com/news/869542/Sponsor-pulls-Cleve-West-Jekka-McVicar-garden/"&gt;sponsoring a garden&lt;/a&gt; at Chelsea Flower Show). An hour later, James Randerson from the Guardian stated that  &lt;blockquote&gt;We have tried again to convince NYR to respond to your comments but they have reiterated their position that they do not wish to enter the debate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We will keep trying to change their mind, but if they stick to that we will be closing this thread in a hour at 15.00 BST.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Which they did.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neal's Yard have scored a massive own goal - an epic fail and a prime case study for "How Not To Do PR". They've cried off, seemingly unable to salvage anything from the situation and deciding the bunker was the best place to be. HolfordWatch is &lt;a href="http://holfordwatch.info/2009/05/27/neals-yard-on-guardian-ethicalliving-you-ask-they-dont-answer-will-they-answer-here/"&gt;contacting Neal's Yard&lt;/a&gt; to see if they would like to continue the conversation there - seems unlikely, but we'll see. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wouldn't like to be the one explaining this cock-up to the Neal's Yard board.......&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-2616149882069399723?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/2616149882069399723/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/guardian-brings-all-nerds-to-yard-and.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/2616149882069399723'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/2616149882069399723'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/guardian-brings-all-nerds-to-yard-and.html' title='The Guardian brings all the nerds to the Yard, and they&apos;re like &quot;it&apos;s quackery, yeah?&quot;'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-1604330368323992530</id><published>2009-05-26T13:17:00.006+01:00</published><updated>2009-05-26T15:10:56.024+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Simon Singh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='British Chiropractic Association'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dysmenorrhoea'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='menstrual pains'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General Chiropractic Council'/><title type='text'>Chiropractic for menstrual pains? No evidence. Period.</title><content type='html'>I'll hopefully convince you by the end of this blogpost, that there are bogus chiropractors in the UK. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Menstrual pain (or to give it its posh name, &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;dysmenorrhoea&lt;/span&gt;) &lt;a href="http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/795677-overview"&gt;is estimated&lt;/a&gt; to affect between 45 - 95% of women at some point. (Bit of a rubbish estimation, if you ask me, but it gives an idea of its occurrence).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here we have a condition which is widespread, can be debilitating, can be chronic, and the main respite from which is through painkillers. A perfect combination for a theatrical placebo. (And a cynic would add it was a regular monthly income).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It takes a leap and jump in the logic to imagineer how chiropractic could assist in the alleviation of dysmenorrhoeaic pain,  but it goes something like this, courtesy of &lt;a href="http://backupurl.com/cache/x354rc.html"&gt;Pringle Chiropractic, Belfast&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;[Pringle Chiropractic] are aware that many women who suffer from menstrual cramps also experience frequent back pain. Is there a connection? Both may be related to subluxation in the lower spine that affects the nerves that serve the female anatomy.&lt;/blockquote&gt; More hand waving than the Queen on a walkabout. Subluxations are interesting little chaps - it seems they are &lt;a href="http://quackfiles.blogspot.com/2005/05/chiropractic-subluxation-is-dead-time.html"&gt;impossible to x-ray&lt;/a&gt;, and the definition of what they are has changed over time - they used to be a &lt;a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/01/is-chiropractic-x-raying-illegal.html"&gt;considered a disruption&lt;/a&gt; in &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innate_intelligence"&gt;innate intelligence&lt;/a&gt; but that has been dropped for obvious reasons and replaced with something along the woolly lines of &lt;blockquote&gt;a loss of function in the spine and nervous system due to a reduction in its normal motion or alignment.&lt;/blockquote&gt; - from Pringle Chiropractic, Belfast again. And what, amongst other things do Pringle recommend for menstrual pain? &lt;blockquote&gt;Good, old fashioned chiropractic adjustments. &lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.glasgowchiropractic.com/pages/menstrual-pain.html"&gt;Glasgow Chiropractic&lt;/a&gt; also are keen to espouse the amazing ability of chiropractic to deal with menstrual pain, by starting off by talking about chiropractic for menopausal symptoms, using &lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12100799?ordinalpos=4&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum"&gt;this paper&lt;/a&gt; from Obstetrics and Gynaecology. Which is interesting because dysmenorrhoea and menopause are completely different beasties. I guess Glasgow Chiro just lumped them together in a sort of hand-wavy "women's problems"-type way. In fact, according to &lt;a href="http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez&amp;artid=1420707"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Latthe et al.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, the predisposition factors for dysmenorrhoea are as follows:&lt;blockquote&gt;Age &lt; 30 years, low body mass index, smoking, earlier menarche (&lt; 12 years), longer cycles, heavy menstrual flow, nulliparity, premenstrual syndrome, sterilisation, clinically suspected pelvic inflammatory disease, sexual abuse, and psychological symptoms.&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Glasgow Chiro claim: &lt;blockquote&gt;Chiropractic provides the mechanisms through which dysmenorrheic women can be relieved of their pain in a drug-free environment and even go on to live a life free of period pain.&lt;/blockquote&gt; which is pretty much a statement of cure. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's a fairly widespread chiropractic claim to be able to assist in menstrual pain - a quick squizz on Google shows that alongside Pringle Chiropractic, Belfast and Glasgow Chiropractic, &lt;a href=" http://backupurl.com/cache/nxra2k.html"&gt;Tooting Chiropractic&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=" http://backupurl.com/cache/2x3shh.html"&gt;Townhill Total Health&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://backupurl.com/cache/ysymde.html"&gt;Bank Chambers Clinic&lt;/a&gt; in Chipping Sodbury and &lt;a href="http://backupurl.com/cache/fhrqn4.html"&gt;Newcastle Chiropractic&lt;/a&gt; to name a few, also insist that chiropractic can assist in some way with menstrual pain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;So, given that there is a widespread belief within chiropractic circles that it can cure or relieve dysmenorrhoea, what decent evidence exists to back this up? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It should come as no surprise to anyone who knows anything about chiropractic that the answer is &lt;a href="http://nickcohen.net/2009/05/20/simon-singh-and-the-battle-for-free-speech/"&gt;"not a jot"&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A &lt;a href="http://www.mrw.interscience.wiley.com/cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD002119/frame.html"&gt;Cochrane Review&lt;/a&gt; in 2006 titled &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Spinal manipulation for primary and secondary dysmenorrhoea&lt;/span&gt; concluded that: &lt;blockquote&gt;Overall there is no evidence to suggest that spinal manipulation is effective in the treatment of primary and secondary dysmenorrhoea. There is no greater risk of adverse effects with spinal manipulation than there is with sham manipulation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://clinicalevidence.bmj.com/ceweb/conditions/woh/0813/0813.jsp"&gt;Clinical Evidence section&lt;/a&gt; of the BMJ places Chiropractic in the "Unlikely to be beneficial" category for dysmenorrhoea.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://hcd2.bupa.co.uk/fact_sheets/html/chiropractic.html"&gt;BUPA's page&lt;/a&gt; on chiropractic categorically states &lt;blockquote&gt;Currently, there is no evidence that spinal manipulation helps to relieve period pain.&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.cks.nhs.uk/dysmenorrhoea#-374877"&gt;NHS page&lt;/a&gt; quotes the Cochrane review above and follows its conclusion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What about the General Chiropractic Council? Does it recommend chiropractic for menstrual pain? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It used to. In &lt;a href="www.chirovictims.org.uk/images/Letter%20to%20GCC%2003.02.04.doc"&gt;this letter (.doc)&lt;/a&gt; written in 2004 to the GCC on behalf of Actions for Victims of Chiropractic, Frances Denoon happens to quote from the GCC's document "What Can I Expect When I See A Chiropractor?" which states:&lt;blockquote&gt;benefit may also be seen for some types of asthma, digestive disorders, migraine, infant colic and &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;menstrual pains.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; The current version of this document can be found on the GCC website &lt;a href="http://www.gcc-uk.org/files/link_file/WhatCanIExpect_Sep07_Web.pdf"&gt;here (.pdf)&lt;/a&gt;, dated Sept 2007, and the same passage now reads: &lt;blockquote&gt;You may also see an improvement in some types of asthma headaches (including migraine) and infant colic.&lt;/blockquote&gt; It seems clear that following the publishing of the Cochrane Review, in 2006 showing that chiropractic had no demonstrable effect on menstrual pain, the GCC (in an attempt to show it was evidence-based) removed menstrual pain from its list of treatable disorders. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That means the GCC, the UK regulator of chiropractics, is fully aware that dysmenorrhoea cannot be treated successfully with chiropractic. No doubt it will have made every effort to communicate this to its members and ensure that no-one was claiming otherwise. I'll be arranging for complaints to be made to the GCC regarding the above chiropractor's claims.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I now suggest to you that, given the evidence above, any chiropractor that suggests that chiropractic is a worthwhile therapy for menstrual pain is bogus. Period.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-1604330368323992530?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/1604330368323992530/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/chiropractic-for-menstrual-pains-no.html#comment-form' title='16 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/1604330368323992530'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/1604330368323992530'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/chiropractic-for-menstrual-pains-no.html' title='Chiropractic for menstrual pains? No evidence. Period.'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>16</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-3547816044607009003</id><published>2009-05-19T15:50:00.014+01:00</published><updated>2009-05-20T11:54:57.709+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Simon Singh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bogus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='British Chiropractic Association'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chiropractic'/><title type='text'>Chiropractic - totally bogus, dude?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/6854377/bill-and-ted.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 291px;" src="http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/6854377/bill-and-ted.jpg" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The word 'bogus' is back in vogue - and not before time. It's been 18 years since &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_&amp;_Ted%27s_Bogus_Journey"&gt;Bill &amp; Ted's Bogus Journey&lt;/a&gt; hit the big screen and had all &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;teh kidz&lt;/span&gt; talking like west coast surfer dudes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The word 'bogus' has been thrust back into the limelight for a much more serious reason - just over a year ago, Simon Singh wrote a piece for the Guardian entitled "Beware of the Spinal Trap" (you can read the full article on Gimpy's excellent website &lt;a href="http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/the-libellous-simon-singh-article-on-chiropractors/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) which contained the line:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;The British Chiropractic Association claims that their members can help treat children with colic, sleeping and feeding problems, frequent ear infections, asthma and prolonged crying, even though there is not a jot of evidence. This organisation is the respectable face of the chiropractic profession and yet it happily promotes &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;bogus&lt;/span&gt; treatments.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; In the usual manner of Complementary &amp; Alternative Medicine, the BCA decided to &lt;a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mandrake/2570744/Doctors-take-Simon-Singh-to-court.html"&gt;sue for libel&lt;/a&gt; rather than entering into a rational discourse regarding evidence or the lack thereof. &lt;a href="http://holfordwatch.info/2008/08/16/british-chiropractors-join-the-legal-intimidation-party/"&gt;At the time&lt;/a&gt;, it wasn't apparent what the offending part of the article was, just that &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/08/another-back-cracking-quack-attack_18.html"&gt;it was happening&lt;/a&gt;, hot on the heels of &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/08/another-back-cracking-quack-attack.html"&gt;another legal chill&lt;/a&gt; from New Zealand Chiropractors to David Colquhoun.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Blogger and legal eagle, Jack of Kent has been following this story meticulously - his round up of the preliminary hearing (which was on 7th May 2009) can be found &lt;a href="http://jackofkent.blogspot.com/2009/05/bca-v-singh-astonishingly-illiberal.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. From Jack of Kent's site:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;[The Judge continued that] The word "bogus" meant deliberate and targeted dishonesty. So it did not mean that chiropractic for the six named children's ailments (including asthma) was simply wrong, or that it was contrary to established medical practice or research, or even that it completely lacked evidence. "Bogus" meant a lot more. The judge held that by the mere use of the word "bogus" Simon Singh was stating that, as a matter of fact, the BCA were being &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;consciously dishonest&lt;/span&gt; in promoting chiropractic for those children's ailments.&lt;br /&gt;[...]The ruling means that, as it stands, Simon Singh would have to prove at full trial that the BCA were being deliberately dishonest. This is not only extremely difficult but it was undoubtedly not Simon Singh's view in the first place. The BCA, as with many CAM practitioners, may well be deluded, irresponsible, and sometimes rather dangerous; but calling their promoted treatments "bogus" was not an express statement of their conscious dishonesty.&lt;/blockquote&gt; (My bold).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=93804559864"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt; site has been set up and on Monday 18th May in London, there was a &lt;a href="http://www.layscience.net/node/567"&gt;collective show of support&lt;/a&gt; for Simon Singh, with Dave Gorman, Evan Harris MP, Nick Cohen and Brian Cox all speaking, as well as Simon himself. The Quackometer is setting up a &lt;a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/05/carnival-of-bogus-chiropractic.html"&gt;Carnival of Bogus* Chiropractic&lt;/a&gt; to promote the fact that there really is little evidence for chiropractic at all, never mind the more exotic claims of colic, athsma and others. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So then, are chiropractics claiming all manner of curatives without the evidence to back it up? If so, then it's difficult to see how they aren't being consciously dishonest. Gimpy has &lt;a href="http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/general-chiropractic-council-admit-chiropractors-may-be-bogus/"&gt;already shown&lt;/a&gt; that the General Chiropractic Council appear to admit there may be bogus chiropractors. I suppose chiros could be deluded, well-meaning, possibly ignorant of the evidence, but I'm not sure how likely that is. I looked at one in the Wiltshire area at random to see what came up:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Step up &lt;a href="http://www.healthcare2k.co.uk/treatments.html"&gt;Healthcare 2000&lt;/a&gt; in Trowbridge and Chippenham - this is a one-stop shop for alternative quack-like things - clicking on the 'Select Treatment' icon downloads a &lt;a href="http://www.healthcare2k.co.uk/treatment.pdf"&gt;pdf document&lt;/a&gt; which states the following:&lt;blockquote&gt;This section lists alphabetically a number of conditions that may be alleviated by the therapeutic specialities shown. Many complementary therapies are not condition specific but treat the “whole person”, making it difficult to accurately list conditions alongside a therapeutic approach in this way.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Fairly weaselly - could be written as "by claiming a holistic approach, we can claim to help any disease in the whole wide world". And here is a list of the ones they claim chiropractic can 'alleviate' (I've put beside a few of them a link to a relevant &lt;a href="http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/clibintro.htm#reviews"&gt;Cochrane review&lt;/a&gt; if available and the conclusion from that review.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab001002.html"&gt;Asthma&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Various therapists use [...] chiropractic. The review found there is not enough evidence from trials to show whether any of these therapies can improve asthma symptoms, and more research is needed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab005230.html"&gt;Bedwetting (childhood)&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Complementary treatments such [...]chiropractic may help, but the evidence was weak.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hypertension&lt;br /&gt;Cancer (with a disclaimer that it may ease symptoms and enhance well-being)&lt;br /&gt;Catarrh&lt;br /&gt;Chronic Colds&lt;br /&gt;Colic in infants - &lt;a href="http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/protocol_609803061811503004.html"&gt;still at Protocol stage&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Constipation&lt;br /&gt;Digestion&lt;br /&gt;Emphysema&lt;br /&gt;Glue Ear&lt;br /&gt;Hay Fever&lt;br /&gt;Infertility&lt;br /&gt;IBS&lt;br /&gt;Osteoporosis&lt;br /&gt;Pregancy (well being during)&lt;br /&gt;Rheumatism&lt;br /&gt;Sinusitis&lt;br /&gt;Stress &lt;br /&gt;Tinnitus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remember this is chiropractic - mainly spine manipulation. Despite claiming all these diseases can be alleviated with chiropractic, there are few Cochrane reviews to confirm their claims and the ones that are available are not very positive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How can Healthcare 2000 claim this? They must have some idea of evidence to show efficacy, I mean they wouldn't just make it up, not knowingly anyway, because that would mean their claims are bogus (according to Justice Eady). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This business with the BCA will undoubtedly have the same effect (known as the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect"&gt;Streisand Effect&lt;/a&gt;) which is to blast the news round the world via the internets that BCA want to silence dissent about chiropractic. This will in turn shine a skeptic-ninja searchlight on the &lt;a href="http://jdc325.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/helping-the-bca"&gt;chiropractic industry&lt;/a&gt; and show that the evidence for any of it is weak to non-existant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Roll on &lt;a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/05/carnival-of-bogus-chiropractic.html"&gt;the Carnival&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;* - deliberate deception not implied.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-3547816044607009003?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/3547816044607009003/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/chiropractic-totally-bogus-dude.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/3547816044607009003'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/3547816044607009003'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/chiropractic-totally-bogus-dude.html' title='Chiropractic - totally bogus, dude?'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-2928489347297191601</id><published>2009-05-18T14:13:00.009+01:00</published><updated>2009-05-18T17:06:04.085+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='People&apos;s Science Journal'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='manuka honey'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='honey'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Daily Mail'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='life mel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='cold cure'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='qur&apos;an'/><title type='text'>Honey, I shrunk the cold (and the evidence)</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/ShFhWI6Z34I/AAAAAAAAAHg/jJv9p9QUl9U/s1600-h/bees.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 240px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/ShFhWI6Z34I/AAAAAAAAAHg/jJv9p9QUl9U/s320/bees.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5337154066388213634" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I love honey.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, I love it so much, I became a beekeeper (which, even when things go wrong and honey levels are low, is still an amazing, rewarding and worthwhile pursuit). I met the Honey Monster once, but it turned out to be an actor in a honey monster outfit. Gutted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nonetheless, honey ticks all the boxes for being hijacked by quacks as a cure-all - it is natural, available and has historical &amp; religious provenance;&lt;blockquote&gt;And thy LORD taught the bee to build its cells in hills, on tree and in men’s habitations, then to eat of all the produce of the earth and find with skill the spacious paths of its LORD, there issues from within their bodies a drink of varying colors, wherein is healing for men, verily in this is a sign for those who give thought&lt;/blockquote&gt; (Qu'ran Surat Al-Nahl, The Bees, Aya 69)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Some time later, when [Sampson] went back to marry her, he turned aside to look at the lion's carcass. In it was a swarm of bees and some honey, which he scooped out with his hands and ate as he went along. When he rejoined his parents, he gave them some, and they too ate it. But he did not tell them that he had taken the honey from the lion's carcass.&lt;/blockquote&gt; (Bible, &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=JUDG%2014&amp;version=31;"&gt;Judges 14&lt;/a&gt;, NIV)&lt;br /&gt;Leaving aside the bee-zarre story of Sampson (he murders 30 people and gives his wife to his best mate a week after the wedding), honey has been used for squillions of years as an antiseptic - most micro-organisms are unable to survive in such a sugar-rich, water-poor environment. Hence, it never goes mouldy in your cupboard.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(One important exception is &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;clostridium botulinum&lt;/span&gt; whose spores can survive in honey, meaning that &lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8150073?ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&amp;linkpos=1&amp;log$=relatedarticles&amp;logdbfrom=pubmed"&gt;it shouldn't be given to infants&lt;/a&gt;, although there have been &lt;a href="http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Botulism/Pages/Causes.aspx"&gt;no cases in UK since 2001&lt;/a&gt;. Of course, there will be people telling you that feeding honey to a 6 month old baby is fine, such as &lt;a href="http://www.unhinderedliving.com/honey.html"&gt;Unhindered Living&lt;/a&gt;, but then they are also anti-vaccination so I guess the stupid goes with the territory.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So history, religion, antiseptic qualities and naturalness are all part of the honey story. (&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Naturalness&lt;/span&gt; may not be a real word). Throw into the mix the intriguing biology and evolution of bees (matriarchal society, highly beneficial to flowering plants, pheromone behaviour, relaying of information through the medium of dance, to name a few) and you have a perfect background for flogging honey as a natural panacea. (Although let's not forget the &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/11/failed-by-complementary-medicine-tragic.html"&gt;tragic case of Russell Jenkin&lt;/a&gt;s who died after trying unsuccessfully to treat gangrene with honey).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obviously, not any old honey will work to cure every disease in the world ever, it has to be special expensive branded honey, like &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/03/bluffers-guide-to-consumer-related.html"&gt;Life Mel&lt;/a&gt; (still no follow up trial?) or &lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3787867.stm"&gt;Manuka Honey&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A story promoting the health benefits of honey is always going to make certain sections of the media. The fawning, uncritical, regurgitating cut-and-pasters at the Daily Mail will always print your honey story - no questions asked. It'll &lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-394632/Cancer-doctors-turn-honey-heal.html"&gt;cure cancer&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-438719/How-spoonful-honey-make-toast-superbugs.html"&gt;kill superbugs&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-134070/Honey-fight-heart-disease.html"&gt;fight heart disease&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-481629/Honey-counter-effects-ageing.html"&gt;counter ageing&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The most recent story to be CtrlC/CtrlV-ed into the People's Journal of Science (Daily Mail) is that &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/diets/article-1180641/A-sticky-remedy-Eating-honey-shortens-colds-days.html"&gt;Eating honey shortens colds by two days&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first line of copy tempers this a bit (naughty attention-grabbing sub-ed - so out of character) by saying it 'can help' reduce the duration of colds. 'Can help' is one of those weaselly marketing phrases like 'may', 'reduce' and 'up to' which allows them to infer much more than they *actually* can. Still, it's possibly worth further investigation. Like all dead-tree media, the reference to the original paper is never given (no idea why not) so after a brief hunt, I found the paper &lt;a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6VNM-4VT17JK-1&amp;_user=10&amp;_coverDate=04%2F30%2F2009&amp;_rdoc=17&amp;_fmt=high&amp;_orig=browse&amp;_srch=doc-info(%23toc%236182%232009%23999599996%231024649%23FLA%23display%23Volume)&amp;_cdi=6182&amp;_sort=d&amp;_docanchor=&amp;_ct=19&amp;_acct=C000050221&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=10&amp;md5=bc977122a7ce79dab2efb616a8ea9cfb"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. (Unfortunately, it's paywalled, but this is only one of a number of minor hurdles presented to the modern bloggist.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you click on the link to the paper, something very obvious and quite odd should become apparent. A cheeky tactic employed by some researchers is to write to the editor of a journal, have your letter printed, and then by neatly side-stepping peer-review and due process claim you have 'published' a paper. And so it is in this case - not actual published research, just a letter to the editor - how nice. Never mind, let's perservere.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The trial involved 60 people, who had developed cold symptoms within the previous 24h. They were divided into two groups of 30, with the first group getting paracetomol, naproxen and chlorpheniramine (Piriton) and the second group getting the same drugs, but with 50g of natural honey per day as well. So, poor randomisation, no blinding and a small sample - the results are already next to worthless. They were visited by researchers every day to examine the symptoms (rhinitis, muscle pain, fever, throat congestion, cough and sneezing), and these researchers were unaware of which group the patients were in. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The only result the paper gives is that &lt;blockquote&gt;In the group given honey, duration of signs and symptoms was 1-2 days less than control group.&lt;/blockquote&gt; And how long was the duration of symptoms in the control group? Doesn't say - which is mighty important if the results are to be put into context - was it 4 days in which the honey group halved the time of recouperation or was it 14 days in which the honey (along with all the flaws in the methodology) did almost nothing? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now don't get me wrong, this mightn't be useless research - it could be what some people call 'skunk' work - a little trial on the side just to see if it's worth investigating further under more suitable conditions (possibly for funding reasons). However, it's important to look at it for what it is - a correspondence to the editor of a journal, not peer reviewed, not blinded, not placebo-controlled, not randomised, lacking in detail and information, and hence completely unreliable. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What it does not show is the remotest glint of reliable evidence that demonstrates that honey is any good for colds - I hope I have persuaded you of that. Compare this again to the headline "Eating honey shortens colds by two days" - not only is it bollocks, but the Daily Fail have overegged the pudding by using the '2 days' rather than the woolly and meaningless '1-2 days' that was in the not peer-reviewed, not blinded, not placebo-controlled, not randomised, lacking in detail and information, and hence completely unreliable letter. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The article goes on to describe &lt;blockquote&gt;a recent trial at the Dubai Medical Centre, [involving] 16 adults with a history of recurrent cold sores.&lt;/blockquote&gt; After a hunt, I think I &lt;a href="http://www.medscimonit.com/fulltxt_free.php?ICID=11736"&gt;found the paper&lt;/a&gt; - if you call 2004 recent, and if by cold sores you mean "labial and genital herpes lesions". Still they got the Dubai bit right. A unblinded, unrandomised, non-placebo controlled trial of 16 people is, yet again, not worth a jot.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the state of UK media science journalism. If this is the level of effort being put in by the hacks at the Daily Mail for their science stories, what does that say about the level of truth, fact and effort in the rest of the paper?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think it needs some honey.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Many thanks to Samuel Eaton.&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-2928489347297191601?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/2928489347297191601/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/honey-i-shrunk-cold-and-evidence.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/2928489347297191601'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/2928489347297191601'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/honey-i-shrunk-cold-and-evidence.html' title='Honey, I shrunk the cold (and the evidence)'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/ShFhWI6Z34I/AAAAAAAAAHg/jJv9p9QUl9U/s72-c/bees.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-716575993913273771</id><published>2009-05-13T17:20:00.006+01:00</published><updated>2009-05-13T18:08:18.051+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Freedom of information'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Daily Mail'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chemtrails'/><title type='text'>Homeopathic Protection Against ChemTrails or Fun with Freedom of Information.</title><content type='html'>This is just a bit of pointing and laughing really - childish, puerile and enjoyable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was reading the People's Journal of Science (PJS or Daily Mail as it's known) and how they even-handed and non-sensationally reported &lt;a href="http://www.chemtrust.org.uk/"&gt;CHEMtrust's&lt;/a&gt; commissioned report on &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.chemtrust.org.uk/documents/Male%20Repro%20Health-CHEM%20Trust-%20Press%20ReleaseMay09.pdf"&gt;Male Reproductive Health Disorders and the Potential Role of Exposure to  Environmental Chemicals&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; (pdf). The Daily Mail &lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1180957/Gender-bending-chemical-timebomb-fear-boys-fertility.html"&gt;screamed&lt;/a&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;Gender-bending chemical timebomb fear for boys' fertility&lt;/blockquote&gt; and followed it up with hardhitting quotes like&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Exposure to environmental chemicals slightly increases the risks of undescended testes and hypospadia - malformed genitalia - in boys, the report found&lt;/blockquote&gt; 'Slightly increased'? That's a world away from 'timebomb fear', no? Anyway, I haven't fully read the report and only laugh at the Daily Mail's reporting rather than the report itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However something in the comments reminded me of a bizarre Freedom of Information request I saw about a year ago on the fantastic &lt;a href="http://www.whatdotheyknow.com"&gt;WhatDoTheyKnow&lt;/a&gt; website. The comments section of any Daily Mail story range from the weird to the scary and have every veiw point in between. e.g.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;[Soy] will turn a boy less masculin and reduce his chances of having children,"birth control". This is all part of population reduction by the elite, not so many slaves are required for their New World Order. - peter neilson, wigan england&lt;/blockquote&gt; Righty-oh, pretty resonable point of view...... but it was Anne Palk-Smith who really made me snigger:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In the article Professor Sharpe is quoted as saying 'you can'y do anything about chemicals in the environment...'&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps it would be a start for us to ask goverment who is ordering the polution of the skies by pumping out toxins from planes under the guise of contrails. For anyone not familiar with this issue do a search on internet for 'chemtrails'. - anne palk-smith &lt;/blockquote&gt;So what are Chemtrails? &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory"&gt;Wiki&lt;/a&gt; has the following to say:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The chemtrail conspiracy theory holds that some contrails are actually chemicals or biological agents deliberately sprayed at high altitudes for a purpose undisclosed to the general public. Versions of the chemtrail conspiracy theory circulating on the internet and radio talk shows theorize that the activity is directed by government officials.[1] As a result, federal agencies have received thousands of complaints from people who have demanded an explanation.[2] The existence of chemtrails has been repeatedly denied by government agencies and scientists around the world&lt;/blockquote&gt;So why doesn't someone ask the government what's going on? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And they did. Step up Veronica Chapman - &lt;a href="http://www.veronicachapman.com/links/911TruthYouWantSome.htm"&gt;no stranger&lt;/a&gt; to conspiracy theories. (She has also a FoI request for "&lt;a href="http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/is_income_tax_legal#incoming-26073"&gt;Is income tax legal&lt;/a&gt;?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm going to reproduce an slightly edited version of the &lt;a href="http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/unusual_markings_in_the_uk_skies#comment-1720"&gt;mail discussion&lt;/a&gt; between Ms Chapman various government bods. It's really worth perservering with.....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dear Sir or Madam,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I make the following request for information under the Freedom of&lt;br /&gt;Information Act.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For sometime now I, and many others, have observed trails left by&lt;br /&gt;low-ish flying aircraft. These trails do not disperse rapidly as do&lt;br /&gt;those ice-crystal vapour trails from high-flying jets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Will you please be so kind as to tell me:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) The chemical composition of these slowly-dispersing trails.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) Who authorises them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) What know effects they may have on the population of the United&lt;br /&gt;Kingdom.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you in anticipation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Veronica Chapman&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Dear Veronica&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you for your email. Unfortunately Defra does not hold this&lt;br /&gt;information. We believe it is an issue for the Department for Transport.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Dear Helpline, Defra (CCU),&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you for your response.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are you suggesting that the environment is not affected? That&lt;br /&gt;whatever is in these trails does not fall to the ground and enter&lt;br /&gt;the food/water chains?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will, of course, contact the Department of Transport as you&lt;br /&gt;suggest, and pose the same questions to them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But would still like to know your reasoning as to how something&lt;br /&gt;man-made, that is falling from the sky, has been given the&lt;br /&gt;all-clear as far as earthbound living organism is concerned. (As&lt;br /&gt;far as the environment is concerned, if you wish to put it like&lt;br /&gt;that).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is the air we breathe being continually monitored?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If so, what are the results? Do the air, water, and food supplies&lt;br /&gt;contain any unusual substances, referenced back (say) to 30 years&lt;br /&gt;ago.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think, with respect, these are fair questions to ask, based on&lt;br /&gt;what many of us have observed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yours sincerely,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Veronica&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In response to your recent enquiry concerning emissions from airplanes and air quality, this is a matter for the Department for Transport, but I can confirm that we monitor and assess air quality throughout the UK in accordance with EU air quality legislation. For further information, please see: http://ec.europa.eu/environment/air/quality/index.htm&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Dear Snary, Chris (AQIP),&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you for your response, and for answering ONE of my questions&lt;br /&gt;- i.e. to the effect that you are responsible for monitoring our&lt;br /&gt;AIR, and that is to EU quality standards.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May I therefore please have answers to my remaining questions,&lt;br /&gt;which I will repeat (slightly rephrased) for your guidance:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) Do you monitor the water supply (as well as the air)?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) Who monitors the food chain (if not yourselves)?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) Can you positively confirm that these unusual sky markings have&lt;br /&gt;absolutely no effect whatsoever on the environment and, in&lt;br /&gt;particular human and animal life?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4) Can you positively confirm that the air, water, and food&lt;br /&gt;supplies contain no unusual substances, referenced back (say) to 30&lt;br /&gt;years ago&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yours sincerely,&lt;br /&gt;Veronica&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Dear Ms Chapman&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you for your e-mail of 7 July to Chris Snary about unusual markings in&lt;br /&gt;the UK skies. I have been asked to reply. To respond to your questions in&lt;br /&gt;turn:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) Do you monitor the water supply (as well as the air)?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The quality and safety of drinking water is monitored by water companies and&lt;br /&gt;is regulated by the Drinking Water Inspectorate. The quality of natural&lt;br /&gt;bodies of water is monitored by the Environment Agency.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) Who monitors the food chain (if not yourselves)?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Food Standards Agency regulates the safety of food products.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) Can you positively confirm that these unusual sky markings have&lt;br /&gt;absolutely no effect whatsoever on the environment and, in particular human&lt;br /&gt;and animal life?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As Mr Snary has previously advised, the Department for Transport is best&lt;br /&gt;placed to advise on matters relating to emissions from aircraft.&lt;br /&gt;4) Can you positively confirm that the air, water, and food supplies contain&lt;br /&gt;no unusual substances, referenced back (say) to 30 years ago[?]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are public regulatory processes in place to manage all environmental&lt;br /&gt;risks that have been identified as potentially significant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Contact details for the organisations listed above can be found at:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Drinking Water Inspectorate:&lt;br /&gt;[1]www.dwi.gov.uk/contact.shtm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Environment Agency:&lt;br /&gt;[2]www.environment-agency.gov.uk/contactus&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Food Standards Agency:&lt;br /&gt;[3]www.food.gov.uk/aboutus/contactus&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Department for Transport:&lt;br /&gt;[4]www.dft.gov.uk/contact&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yours sincerely&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Dear Defra UnHelp Line,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you very much for your stone-walling, and attempts to divert&lt;br /&gt;this FoI request.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However I have (in the meanwhile) had the good fortune to be told,&lt;br /&gt;via a friend, to check up on "Chemtrails". When I did that I saw&lt;br /&gt;many, many pictures, from all over the world, looking exactly like&lt;br /&gt;the sky markings I tried to describe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And, guess what! The answers to my questions are already known!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These 'trails' contain such substances as barium (radio-active?&lt;br /&gt;Barium Meal given to X-Ray patients?), and aluminium.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm breathing, eating, and drinking barium &amp; aluminium?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the Department of the Environment doesn't mind?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is within 'EU guidelines'?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, I certainly mind, even if you &amp; the EU don't.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But then apparently, it gets worse. This chemtrail soup also&lt;br /&gt;contains nano-technology-sized pathogens …&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(pathogen: noun: any micro-organism, especially a bacterium or&lt;br /&gt;virus, that causes disease in a living organism)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;… and that these can accumulate, and link together to destroy the&lt;br /&gt;electro-chemical balance of any living creature.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or, to put it another way "they are *very* not nice at all".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All this information comes from:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;… which includes a test to see if you are affected (you will be),&lt;br /&gt;and various detox methods.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or, to put this another way "The EU Guidelines are obviously a very&lt;br /&gt;sick joke, devised by some very sick people"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Defra: You and your EU have been absolutely no help whatsoever. In&lt;br /&gt;fact 'deliberate hindrance' would be a far more apposite&lt;br /&gt;description.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yours sincerely,&lt;br /&gt;Veronica&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Dear Ms Chapman,&lt;br /&gt;Thank you for your email of 12 July regarding unusual markingsin the UK&lt;br /&gt;skies. I have been asked to respond.&lt;br /&gt;I am unable to add anything further to the previous response from my&lt;br /&gt;colleague Christopher Conder.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope this is helpful.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Dear Sir or Madam,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The information you have supplied has not been helpful in the&lt;br /&gt;slightest. (So ... well done! You are doing your job!). Fortunately&lt;br /&gt;I found the information elsewhere.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Along with the information I received from elsewhere, came a&lt;br /&gt;homeopathic detoxification method designed to kill (without any&lt;br /&gt;side-effects) any parasitic activity that I may very well have&lt;br /&gt;inadvertently breathed in (under your EU Guidelines).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since you, presumably, breathe the same EU-Guidelined air as I do,&lt;br /&gt;all I can do is to wish you good luck, in the long term, with skin&lt;br /&gt;lesions that 'just don't seem to want heal, no matter what you do'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yours sincerely,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Veronica Chapman&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Dear Ms Chapman,&lt;br /&gt;Please see our response on aviation contrails &lt;a href="http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/789/response/3403/attach/html/3/080804%20FOI%204412%20Chapman%20Contrails.doc.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Dear Roger Worth,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Than you for the documentation on Contrails, which is totally&lt;br /&gt;irrelevant because my question was about CHEMTRAILS ... which have&lt;br /&gt;been analysed to contain barium and aluminium, etc, and also some&lt;br /&gt;for of nano-particles which (possibly) create Morgellon's disease.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On re-reading your response, and my original request, it seems&lt;br /&gt;clear to me that you did not read my original request.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, in order to clarify the situation please be so kind as to read&lt;br /&gt;this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am not in the slightest bit interested in Contrails left by&lt;br /&gt;high-flying aircraft … even where these ice crystals may contain a&lt;br /&gt;small amount of unburned kerosene (paraffin).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The 'unusual markings' of this FoI request relate to CHEMTRAILS&lt;br /&gt;(Google it!) left by LOW-FLYING aircraft, in various shapes … such&lt;br /&gt;as "V"s and "X"s, parallel lines, etc. Sometimes these cover the&lt;br /&gt;entire sky as they spread out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to independent Analysts these CHEMTRAILS comprise such&lt;br /&gt;substances as barium (which is, of course, radio-active),&lt;br /&gt;aluminium, and other materials. There is good information on the&lt;br /&gt;Internet to state that these CHEMTRAILS also contain nano-particles&lt;br /&gt;(Google it!) which cause Morgellon's Disease (Google it!).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;CHEMTRAILS are what forms the subject of this FoI request.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would like confirmation of the EXACT chemical composition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would like confirmation of exactly how long this has been going&lt;br /&gt;on. (Some have said "two decades")&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would like to know who authorises this, and WHY.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since I breathe the air, eat the food from the food chain, and&lt;br /&gt;drink the water, I think I have the right to know. Don't you?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yours sincerely,&lt;br /&gt;Veronica&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I am not aware of any scientific work by credible scientists that supports the existence of chemtrails. Limited analysis has been undertaken to analyse contrails but you are not interested in them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would be interested in seeing the source that you refer to so that I can consider circulating it amongst our scientific advisors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've done a quick search of the internet on Morgellon's disease and it appears more closely related to soil than to anything else.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sorry I can't offer you anything more substantive&lt;br /&gt;Roger Worth&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Dear Roger Worth,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You said: "I am not aware of any scientific work by credible&lt;br /&gt;scientists that supports the existence of chemtrails".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You don't need Scientists. All you need is to *open your own eyes,&lt;br /&gt;and look upwards*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or Google "Chemtrails"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The distinction between "Contrails" and "Chemtrails" is totally and&lt;br /&gt;blindingly OBVIOUS to anyone with open eyes and a functioning&lt;br /&gt;brain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your statement indicates you (presumably) possess neither of these&lt;br /&gt;essential organs which, with the greatest respect, renders your&lt;br /&gt;statement utterly crass. Are you actually PAID to write such purile&lt;br /&gt;rubbish?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yours sincerely,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Veronica Chapman&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sadly, the conversation ends. Veronica has her homeopathic detoxification method (whatever that is) and poor Roger Worth had to write with patience to a crank - I would love to know what he 'wanted' to write. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Freedom of Information is a fantastic resource and is an excellent step towards open government, I suppose the downside is something like the above. It's all a government conspiracy, if you ask me ;)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-716575993913273771?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/716575993913273771/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/homeopathic-protection-against.html#comment-form' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/716575993913273771'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/716575993913273771'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/homeopathic-protection-against.html' title='Homeopathic Protection Against ChemTrails or Fun with Freedom of Information.'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-2046298942945067629</id><published>2009-05-11T16:17:00.005+01:00</published><updated>2009-05-11T17:40:05.172+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='vitamin C'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Matthias Rath'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Barrett'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Holland'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='holford Watch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Patrick Holford'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='swine flu'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ANH'/><title type='text'>Swine Flu: What's the difference between US pill peddlers and UK ones?</title><content type='html'>Interesting little comparison this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;According to the &lt;a href="http://www.naturalproductsinsider.com/hotnews/industry-coalition-says-supplements-not-swine.html"&gt;Natural Products Insider&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The American Herbal Products Association (AHPA), the Consumer Healthcare Products Association (CHPA), the Council for Responsible Nutrition (CRN), the Natural Products Association (NPA) and the United Natural Products Alliance (UNPA) are endorsing the following unified advisory for marketers and retailers of dietary supplements:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * Marketers and retailers of dietary supplements are urged to refuse to stock or sell any supplements that are presented as treating or curing swine flu, and&lt;br /&gt;    * &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;Marketers and retailers should refrain from promoting any dietary supplement as a cure or treatment for swine flu.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * Anyone who believes they may have swine flu or may have come in contact with the virus should contact a healthcare professional. More information on swine flu and the proper actions to take if you suspect you are ill is available on the Centers for Disease Control Web site.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“There are dietary supplements that have much to offer in terms of enhancing general immune function,” the released statement said. “However, therapies for the treatment of swine flu should only be recommended by qualified healthcare professionals or public health authorities.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Marketers and retailers should refrain from promoting any dietary supplement as a cure or treatment for swine flu" - pretty admirable, in my opinion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How does that compare with the UK stance? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Everyone's favourite science-mangler, Patrick Holford starts with a informercial entitled "Can Vitamin C kill swine flu?". A lovely little example of &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2007/09/theory-1.html"&gt;Dr*T's First Theory&lt;/a&gt;, amended to include Patrick Holford articles (we'll leave aside the long time debate about whether it's possible to 'kill' a virus). The article is sharply fisked on the tireless &lt;a href="http://holfordwatch.info/2009/04/28/patrick-holfords-recommendation-for-swine-flu-same-as-those-for-bird-flu-but-with-phrase-substitution/"&gt;HolfordWatch&lt;/a&gt; site.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mind you, Holford has form when it comes to Vitamin C - he has &lt;a href="http://holfordwatch.info/2007/03/29/more-or-less-apologetic-holford-on-hivaids-and-vitamin-c/"&gt;previously claimed&lt;/a&gt; that AZT (an anti-HIV drug) is more harmful and less effective than Vitamin C. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;AZT is more harmful and less effective than Vitamin C.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I thought it deserved repeating. So Vitamin C is more effective at combatting AIDS than an anti-HIV drug - which is something his old buddy Matthias Rath thought as well. In fact, those of you who have been stocking up on brain-boosting fish-oils will no doubt remember that Rath bought full page adverts denouncing Aids drugs in South Africa while promoting his vitamin pills. Whenever Guardian columnist Ben Goldacre said as much, Rath sued - and &lt;a href="http://www.badscience.net/2008/09/matthias-rath-pulls-out-forced-to-pay-the-guardians-costs-i-think-this-means-i-win/"&gt;subsequently dropped the case&lt;/a&gt; incurring 'alf a million nicker in costs. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's also a striking coincidence that Rath and Holford are again buddies-in-arms with regards to swine flu - Rath (a la Holford) has &lt;a href="http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/swineflu_09may01.html"&gt;published&lt;/a&gt; an infomercial on his site and expounds the benefits of....? anyone? anyone? Bewler? Correct - Vitamin C (amongst some other oh-so-scientific micronutrients).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Helios Homeopathy have followed a similar "Here is some information on Swine Flu and what you should do (oh, and buy some homeopathic products)"-infomercial pattern, including this Arthur Weasley McWeasle wording&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Homoeopathy has a long history in the treatment and prevention of epidemic diseases. However it must be stressed that there is at present only anecdotal and bibliographical evidence that homoeopathic prophylaxis works&lt;/blockquote&gt; The Irish Homoepathy Society are joining a &lt;a href="http://www.irishhomeopathy.ie/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=blogsection&amp;id=7&amp;Itemid=61"&gt;Swine Flu Taskforce&lt;/a&gt;, which will be extremely helpful - &lt;blockquote&gt;The [homeopathic] organisations are being urged to exchange validated information and details to determine the most effective remedies to be used in the treatment of the condition.&lt;/blockquote&gt; I wonder will they only concentrate on homeopathic remedies or actually look at effective ones?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Holland &amp; Barrett wouldn't do anything as clumsy as advertise swine flu products. No. They just &lt;a href="http://backupurl.com/cache/9gtcsw.html"&gt;put a big banner&lt;/a&gt; saying "SWINE FLU WATCH" and then list some completely unconnected products underneath it (including Vitamin C) and in no way are they saying that these products are for swine flu - definately not. No sir. The banner is just there to fill space.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.anhcampaign.org/news/swine-flu-2009-hog-hype-or-global-threat"&gt;Alliance for Natural Health&lt;/a&gt; hasn't succumbed to selling or advertising pills for the pig flu, though - there's no point because swine flu "looks to be massively overblown by the media, by governments and by the drug companies."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps a hint of a &lt;a href="http://www.layscience.net/node/533"&gt;Swine Flu conspiracy theory &lt;/a&gt;there?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-2046298942945067629?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/2046298942945067629/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/swine-flu-whats-difference-between-us.html#comment-form' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/2046298942945067629'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/2046298942945067629'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/swine-flu-whats-difference-between-us.html' title='Swine Flu: What&apos;s the difference between US pill peddlers and UK ones?'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-2190145704642433269</id><published>2009-05-07T12:58:00.006+01:00</published><updated>2009-05-07T14:50:07.221+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nelson&apos;s'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jeremy Sherr.'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homeopathy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='CLikPak'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MHRA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Arnica'/><title type='text'>Homeopathy, regulation and MHRA</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SgLODXeQW0I/AAAAAAAAAHQ/jPy83NfVXUk/s1600-h/arnica.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 200px; height: 200px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SgLODXeQW0I/AAAAAAAAAHQ/jPy83NfVXUk/s320/arnica.gif" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5333051465995934530" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; What an exciting title, eh? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's always fun wading through UK and EU legislation, and many happy hours can be wiled away reading the Shakesperean prose of statutes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This posting is brought to you by Nelson's Arnica ClikPak, the first homeopathic product to receive approval by the MHRA to be labelled with therapeutic indications (i.e. is allowed to put on the labelling the symptoms that the sugar pill is supposedly to aid). It really is *that* exciting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me give a potted history of homeopathic labelling:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1971: The Medicines Act (1968) comes into force, issuing a Product Right of License (PLR) to all medicines (inc. Homeopathics) on the market. These allowed labelling of therapeutic indications.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1992: The Simplified Registration Scheme (Directive 92/73/EC) came into operation, which did not permit therapeutic indications on the labelling, because of the 'difficulty in demonstrating efficacy in clinical trials'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2001: DIRECTIVE 2001/83/EC is published, which amends Dir 92/73/EC - the full text of it can be found &lt;a href="http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/pharmaceuticals/eudralex/vol-1/dir_2001_83/dir_2001_83_en.pdf"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; (pdf). The important bits (Article 68 &amp;amp; 69) are reprinted here for your nigh-orgasmic delight.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Article 68: Without prejudice to the provisions of Article 69,homeopathic medicinal products shall be labelled in accordance with the provisions of this title and shall be identified by a reference on their labels, in clear and legible form, to their homeopathic nature.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Article 69&lt;br /&gt;1. In addition to the clear mention of the words homeopathic medicinal product’, the labelling and, where appropriate, the package insert for the medicinal products referred to in Article 14(1) shall bear the following, and no other, information: the scientific name of the stock or stocks followed by the degree of dilution, making use of the symbols of the pharmacopoeia used in accordance with Article 1(5), name and address of the registration holder and, where appropriate, of the manufacturer, method of administration and, if necessary, route, expiry date, in clear terms (month, year), pharmaceutical form, contents of the sales presentation, special storage precautions, if any, a special warning if necessary for the medicinal product, manufacturer's batch number, registration number,homeopathic medicinal product without approved therapeutic indications’,a warning advising the user to consult a doctor if the symptoms persist during the use of the medicinal product.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2006: Following consultation MLX 312 (pdf &lt;a href="http://www.mhra.gov.uk/home/groups/pl-p/documents/websiteresources/con1004426.pdf"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;), the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;National Rules Scheme&lt;/span&gt; was introduced in Sept 06 by the MHRA. According to the MHRA website:&lt;blockquote&gt;The purpose of the Scheme is to enable homoeopathic medicinal products to be registered with indications for the relief or treatment of minor symptoms and conditions (those that can ordinarily be relieved or treated without the supervision or intervention of a doctor).&lt;/blockquote&gt; The main changes were that homeopathic products should be allowed to label therapeutic indications, but more importantly, would not have to demonstrate efficacy - due to the difficulty in getting clinical trial success. (In my humble opinion, it shows that the clinical trial system was working, but in good government style it's best to change the system until it gives the answer you want). In this case, the 'efficacy' charge was relegated from clinical trial success to: &lt;blockquote&gt;provide suitable evidence that the product has been used as a homeopathic treatment in the indications sought.&lt;br /&gt;Information provided should be in the form of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;provings&lt;/span&gt;, excerpts from homeopathic &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;materia medica&lt;/span&gt; or other&lt;br /&gt;bibliographic data and should be sufficient to demonstrate that homeopathic&lt;br /&gt;practitioners would accept the efficacy of the product for those indications.&lt;/blockquote&gt; In fairness, that's pretty bonkers. Just so as you know, a 'proving' is when you take a new homeopathic remedy (30c is the concentration normally used, which means there is no possibility of there being a single molecule of the original tincture left in the remedy) and give it to healthy people who then are asked to describe what symptoms it gives. These symptoms are then the symptoms homeopaths use to proscribe this new remedy against. The Materia Medica is the collection of these provings. As I say, it's pretty bonkers - BUT - it's good enough for the UK's Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK, due to no real efficacy needing to be demonstrated, the therapeutic indications are limited to self-limiting problems that normally wouldn't require medical intervention, but this is certainly a start at legitimising quackery. (But thankfuly, due to this clause, provings such as the &lt;a href="http://www.hominf.org/aids/aidsfr.htm"&gt;ones for HIV/AIDS&lt;/a&gt; (I can't believe it either) cannot be used to make homeopathic products with therapeutic indications for AIDS.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[Just to spell it out, I, Dr* T, think that it is disgusting, immmoral, unethical and disgraceful for anyone to try and give a sugar pill to someone with AIDS and telling them they will be cured. In fact, it's difficult to believe anyone would do it. &lt;a href="http://layscience.net/node/467"&gt;Step up&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2007/11/01/jeremy-sherr-fellow-of-the-society-of-homeopaths-wants-to-cure-aids-and-malaria-with-homeopathy/"&gt;Jeremy Sherr&lt;/a&gt;. He's also alleged to have recommended people come off the ARV AIDS treatments as part of his trial, but his blog containing the statement was removed. This is the closest I've come to using the c-word on my blog]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When the &lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5303080.stm"&gt;MHRA announced in 2006&lt;/a&gt; that homeopathic products were going to be issued with approvals for therapeutic indications without having to give any (non-bonkers) evidence of efficacy, understandably there was an outcry from rationalists and skeptics across the land. Sense About Science put out &lt;a href="http://www.senseaboutscience.org.uk/index.php/site/project/86"&gt;a statement &lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://dcscience.net/?p=31"&gt;DC Science&lt;/a&gt; had &lt;a href="http://dcscience.net/?p=32"&gt;quite a bit&lt;/a&gt; to say, amongst &lt;a href="http://www.healthwatch-uk.org/Position%20homeopathic%20regulation.pdf"&gt;others (pdf)&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The finalised &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Homeopathic National Rules Scheme&lt;/span&gt; is summed up &lt;a href="http://www.mhra.gov.uk/home/groups/l-unit1/documents/websiteresources/con2024923.pdf"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; (pdf) in this &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Brief Guidance for Manufacturers and Suppliers&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From that, here is a list of examples of indications that would not be acceptable on a homeopathic product:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Bone diseases&lt;br /&gt;Cardiovascular diseases&lt;br /&gt;Chronic insomnia&lt;br /&gt;Diabetes and other metabolic diseases&lt;br /&gt;Diseases of the liver, biliary system and pancreas&lt;br /&gt;Endocrine diseases&lt;br /&gt;Genetic disorders&lt;br /&gt;Joint, rheumatic and collagen diseases&lt;br /&gt;Malignant diseases&lt;br /&gt;Psychiatric conditions&lt;br /&gt;Serious disorders of the eye and ear&lt;br /&gt;Serious gastrointestinal diseases&lt;br /&gt;Serious infectious diseases including HIV-related diseases and tuberculosis&lt;br /&gt;Serious neurological and muscular diseases including epilepsy&lt;br /&gt;Serious renal diseases&lt;br /&gt;Serious respiratory diseases&lt;br /&gt;Serious skin disorders&lt;br /&gt;Sexually transmitted diseases&lt;br /&gt;Treatment and Prevention of malaria&lt;/blockquote&gt; and some that would:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Indigestion, heart burn, hyperacidity, dyspepsia, halitosis (bad breath) or&lt;br /&gt;flatulence&lt;br /&gt;Colicky pain, stomach ache or nausea, occasional or non-persistent diarrhoea or&lt;br /&gt;constipation&lt;br /&gt;Travel sickness or related symptoms&lt;br /&gt;Minor skin infections, relief of pruritus or exanthematous rashes of childhood&lt;br /&gt;infection and boils, athlete’s foot&lt;br /&gt;Common colds, coughs, conditions commonly referred to as influenza and similar&lt;br /&gt;upper respiratory tract infections&lt;br /&gt;Minor acute inflammatory conditions of the buccal cavity and pharynx including&lt;br /&gt;sore throats&lt;br /&gt;Muscular pain and stiffness including backache, sciatica, lumbago, fibrositis,&lt;br /&gt;rheumatic pain and cramp.&lt;br /&gt;Hay fever, rhinitis and catarrh.&lt;br /&gt;Blocked-up sinuses.&lt;br /&gt;Headache including migrainous headache&lt;br /&gt;Neuralgia&lt;br /&gt;Difficulties falling asleep&lt;br /&gt;Agitation, anxiety, irritability, nervous tension, stresses, strains, tenseness&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All pretty classic alternative medicine claims - i.e. minor ailments that will get better on their own, and excellently suited to a placebo response.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Next, the labelling. How do you ensure that people know that it is a homeopathic product and not anything that will actually do anything? According to the MHRA,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The labelling should also refer, in clear and legible form, to the homoeopathic nature of the product (article 68 of the 2001 Directive).&lt;/blockquote&gt; Nelosn's Arnica ClikPak states it is: &lt;blockquote&gt;a homeopathic medicinal product used within the homeopathic tradition for the symptomatic relief of sprains, muscular aches and bruising and swelling after contusions &lt;/blockquote&gt; which as far as I can see, is the standard phraseology that all homeopathic medicines will be required to contain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[I asked MHRA for a document relating to this, and they sent me one from 2004, which stated that the homeopathic product wasn't allowed to show therapeutic indications! Do try to keep up with your own meddlings, MHRA].&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The full dossier for Nelson's Arnica ClikPak has yet to appear on the MHRA website for &lt;a href="http://www.mhra.gov.uk/Publications/PublicAssessmentReports/index.htm"&gt;public assessment reports&lt;/a&gt; which means I guess they can't actually put the therapuetic indications on the label and sell them yet, but will do soon. When it arrives, I'll let you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So that's about it. You can wake up now. Tha's quite enough legislative bodice-ripping for one afternoon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-2190145704642433269?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/2190145704642433269/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/homeopathy-regulation-and-mhra.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/2190145704642433269'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/2190145704642433269'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/homeopathy-regulation-and-mhra.html' title='Homeopathy, regulation and MHRA'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SgLODXeQW0I/AAAAAAAAAHQ/jPy83NfVXUk/s72-c/arnica.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-7213368657832342523</id><published>2009-05-05T10:37:00.006+01:00</published><updated>2009-05-05T12:25:03.209+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='osteoarthritis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homeopathy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='peter fisher'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='arthritis'/><title type='text'>On cam lesions, arthritis and the bizarre world of homeopathy</title><content type='html'>So I haven't been blogging as much recently, give a guy a break. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As it happens, I've been &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/11/feeling-hip.html" target="_blank"&gt;back on the slab&lt;/a&gt; having an &lt;a href="http://www.hiparthroscopy-ireland.com/fai.html" target="_blank"&gt;open hip debridement to remove 'cam' lesions&lt;/a&gt; - basically opening up the hip, dislocating the femur, and removing all the osteophytes (bony growths) on it that were causing pain and restricted movement. Hopefully this will greatly slow the progression of osteoarthritis already apparent in the hip joint.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All of which means I have plenty of blogging time to make up for the past month or so, as well as an extremely bruised arse. A friend wryly offered me some arnica ("&lt;a href="http://www.arnicare.co.uk/how-does-arnica-work_pg10.aspx"&gt;everyone knows&lt;/a&gt; that arnica heals bruising") so I &lt;a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6WC5-4C892YG-24&amp;_user=10&amp;_origUdi=B6WCS-4GJK86P-1&amp;_fmt=high&amp;_coverDate=02%2F29%2F1984&amp;_rdoc=1&amp;_orig=article&amp;_acct=C000050221&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=10&amp;md5=f0bf1a38d6a7ae4695cbe47423bddddc"&gt;sent her&lt;/a&gt; an (admittedly small) placebo controlled trial comparing &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metronidazole"&gt;metronidazole&lt;/a&gt; with arnica and placebo in the prevention of post-surgical complications. The trial showed the metronidazole did what it was supposed to, but more interestingly, the arnica gave rise to more pain and increased swelling compared to placebo. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Homeopaths have an odd relationship with arthritis in general. The reasons for getting osteoarthritis are not at clear - there appears to be a large element of heredity involved, with obesity and previous joint injury also playing an important part. There is plenty of research going in to finding out why it happens, because the truth is, we don't completely know. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or perhaps I should qualify that statement - 'we' includes the medical establishment and arthritis charities, but doesn't include homeopaths. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://college-of-practical-homeopathy.com/arthritis.htm"&gt;College of Practical Homeopathy&lt;/a&gt; in London would rather have you believe that:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Poor nutrition, allergies, infections and food sensitivities can lead to [arthritis] problems. Overuse and dietary imbalance can lead to a breakdown of cartilage.&lt;/blockquote&gt; More bizarrely, arthritic conditions are linked to &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;the underlying emotional states of resentment, feeling victimized, bitterness and lacking in love.&lt;/blockquote&gt; That's right, your arthritis will get worse unless you get yourself some good ol' loving and stop being such a sourpuss.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, I'm trapped in the modern medical paradigm of wanting my disease cured, or failing that, having the symptoms managed so that I can live with the problem, unlike the complementary therapists who look at you holistically:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Our practically trained Homeopaths will establish the causes of your symptoms. If they can see clear causes (physical traumas or emotional shock etc), in your time line, they may treat these first before going on to a detox program.&lt;/blockquote&gt; You see, if people come to a homeopath regarding arthritis, they'll already know the causes of the symptoms - it's the arthritis. You can tell them that it's because they are unloved or that they don't eat enough goji berries, but that would be bollocks. And a '&lt;a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/features/article5517912.ece"&gt;detox&lt;/a&gt;' (a crock of nonsense in itself) will do nothing for arthritis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;They will take into consideration your nutritional states, and support you in developing a healthier approach to your nutritional needs and in taking action to achieve a healthy lifestyle.&lt;/blockquote&gt; More confusion - what are they going to do for the arthritis? And why are they calling themselves homeopaths? There's nothing homeopathic in their plan. In summary, they are incorrect in the causes, they are bizarre in their understanding of disease progression, and they are clueless about their own ability. They'll happily take your your money of course, &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;caveat emptor&lt;/span&gt; but, as long they don't do anything inappropriate, &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/03/department-of-health-response-to-cnhc.html"&gt;Ofquack&lt;/a&gt;, the 'regulator', is happy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Fisher_(physician)"&gt;Dr Peter Fisher&lt;/a&gt;, homeopath to the Royal Family is confused:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Osteoarthritis ... is basically 'wear and tear' of the joints.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Whoops, wrong again. So give us an example, Dr Fisher, of a cause of arthritis. No seriously. The article is &lt;a href="http://www.arthriticassociation.org.uk/index.php?section=news&amp;page=newsletter/autumn_2004/homeopathy_for_arthritis_and_rheumatism"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;For instance, a woman came to consult me with extra-articular manifestations of rheumatoid arthritis...when I enquired into the social background it turned out she had been through a messy divorce, including a court battle for custody of the children, which she eventually won. The onset of her illness coincided almost to the day with the end of the custody case. I was amazed that she did not make the connection.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Ah yes, causes of arthritis include joint injury, obesity, heredity and &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;custody battles&lt;/span&gt;? This is the royal physician, remember. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the last part of this fun rant, I'd like to direct you to an article written on the National Rheumatoid Arthritis Society Website, titled &lt;a href="http://www.rheumatoid.org.uk/article.php?article_id=80"&gt;"Homeopathy in Rheumatoid Arthritis"&lt;/a&gt;. The article was written by Professor David L Scott of King's College, London and near the end, discusses a small clinical trial (58 people) of rheumatoid arthritis that was 15 years in the preparation:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;During the 6 months of treatment the pain scores fell by 18%, their tender joint counts fell by 24% and their and ESRs fell by 11%. However these improvements were unrelated to homeopathic treatment. They reflected the fact that only patients with improving disease could remain on this type of therapy. Not only were there no benefits from homeopathic treatment but the placebo-treated cases actually showed greater improvements in pain scores. Mean pain scores were significantly lower after 3 months' placebo therapy than 3 months' active homeopathic therapy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;  I'm not sure if this was ever published - PUBMed draws a blank - but Prof Scott is 'unclear how to interpret the negative results', concerning more with the question of &lt;blockquote&gt;is it cost-effective to complement conventional therapy in patients requesting homeopathy? It seems more important to define if homeopathists can genuinely control patients' symptoms and less relevant to have concerns about whether this is due to a ‘genuine’ effect or to influencing the placebo response.&lt;/blockquote&gt; I disagree with this completely - and so should every self-respecting homeopath, but for different reasons. Surely homeopaths don't look at symptoms, they look at the whole person? Surely, any self-respecting homeopath with belief in the religion of dilution would be looking to reestablish the 'natural curing abilities of the body' and remove the rheumatoid arthritis completely? Surely only nasty 'conventional' medicine treats only the symptoms?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's pretty clear to me from the homeopaths themselves they are clueless about arthritis - it's cause, it's progression and most importantly, it's alleviation and cure. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And that's without having to mention that homeopathy itself is drivel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-7213368657832342523?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/7213368657832342523/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/on-cam-lesions-arthritis-and-bizarre.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7213368657832342523'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7213368657832342523'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/05/on-cam-lesions-arthritis-and-bizarre.html' title='On cam lesions, arthritis and the bizarre world of homeopathy'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-960025876876124710</id><published>2009-04-12T18:56:00.007+01:00</published><updated>2009-04-13T20:15:45.304+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dr Joseph Chikelue Obi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='doctoredcv'/><title type='text'>Dr Joseph Chikelue Obi maverickly helps to launch new blog - DoctoredCV.org.uk</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.doctoredcv.org.uk"&gt;Doctored CV&lt;/a&gt; (www.DoctoredCV.org.uk) is a new blog created to pull together reports from around the blogosphere which expose the falsehoods and aggrandised CVs of self-proclaimed experts in the public eye. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seemed more than suitable to publicise this new blog in the same week that Dr Joseph Chikelue Obi (for past history of litigious and absurd behaviour see &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/01/complimentary-and-alternative-medicine.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://pvandck.wordpress.com/2008/01/22/abuse-of-legal-threats-to-suppress-the-truth/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/01/its_the_society_of_homoepathic_thugs_all.php"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and newspaper report &lt;a href="http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-evening-chronicle/tm_objectid=14557214&amp;method=full&amp;siteid=50081&amp;headline=shamed-doctor-probe-name_page.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;a href="http://www.commissioner.co.uk/2009/04/dr-joseph-obi.html"&gt;claims&lt;/a&gt; he has been&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;formally elevated to the Hereditary Scottish Gentry. Professor Obi is to henceforth be formally styled as : The Rt Hon Laird Obi of Kincavel.&lt;/blockquote&gt; And many congratulations indeed to him for that. If you too would like to be formally elevated to the Hereditary Scottish Gentry, so you too can live in a dreamworld and get people to refer to you as Laird Of Kincavel, then please send £26.74 to &lt;a href="http://www.moonestates.com/shop-kincavel.php"&gt;these people&lt;/a&gt;, who will send you all the bumf and legal documents to allow you to do so. You can join the ranks of Dr Obi, lose any vestige of credibility you once had, and perhaps if you're lucky, get yourself onto &lt;a href="http://www.doctoredcv.org.uk"&gt;www.DoctoredCV.org.uk&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you have any blogposts that fit the bill for Doctored CV, leave a comment with a link and I'll take it from there. Please also add the link to your blogroll, if you have a blog.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-960025876876124710?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/960025876876124710/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/04/dr-joseph-chikelue-obi-maverickly-helps.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/960025876876124710'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/960025876876124710'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/04/dr-joseph-chikelue-obi-maverickly-helps.html' title='Dr Joseph Chikelue Obi maverickly helps to launch new blog - DoctoredCV.org.uk'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-2373184342505155091</id><published>2009-04-08T20:15:00.007+01:00</published><updated>2009-04-08T22:00:01.435+01:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='osteo bi-flex'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ASA'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='glucosamine'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='arthritis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Advertising standards Authority'/><title type='text'>Osteo Bi-flex™ - Coming over here, endangering our weaker, indigenous quack products.....</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/Sdz9JGmQo-I/AAAAAAAAAGo/U0o488OnprQ/s1600-h/pp3.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 190px; height: 198px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/Sdz9JGmQo-I/AAAAAAAAAGo/U0o488OnprQ/s200/pp3.gif" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5322407192476820450" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A friend of mine sent me an advert that appeared in the Daily Mail (don't worry, I used gloves) a few weeks back for &lt;a href="http://www.osteobiflex.com/pages/products.aspx?PPID=3"&gt;Osteo Bi-flex&lt;/a&gt; - the number one US joint care brand of placebo pills. You'll be glad to know that it is now available in a "highly innovative, special UK formulation". In fact, they put so much effort into the product, they didn't have time to do the &lt;a href="http://backupurl.com/cache/vvf28k.html"&gt;website&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/search?q=arthritis"&gt;written many times&lt;/a&gt; before about the weird and wonderful product ranges of nonsense for vulnerable arthritis sufferers, desperate to get their hands on something that will relieve the pain without side effect. Obviously, with such a group of people so willing to part with their cash, companies fall over themselves trying to sell all manner of snakeoil, safe in the knowledge that the placebo effect and cognitive dissonance resolution (we'd rather believe the product worked, even when it didn't, to avoid admitting we were taken for a ride) will ensure tidy profits.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The advert claimed that the product can "help to keep you mobile" and help you to "keep doing the things you love" along with a picture of the &lt;a href="http://www.vimooz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/oscar.jpg"&gt;chap from an Oscar &lt;/a&gt;running, with highlighted joints. It contains all the usual quack ingredients; Glucosamine HCl, Chondroitin, Hyaluronic acid (all in the &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Treatments not Recommended for Arthritis&lt;/span&gt; section of the &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/10/only-people-who-think-glucosamine-works.html"&gt;NHS leaflet on arthritis&lt;/a&gt;) and MSM (methylsulphonylmethane - no clinical trials exist which suggest it is effective - &lt;a href="http://www.arc.org.uk/arthinfo/patpubs/6010/6010.asp"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; from Arthritis Research Campaign).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I contacted the Advertising Standards Authority and they responded promptly to inform me that they already been in touch with &lt;a href="http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/833c76cb0bb72238b1706a903cb3a500/compdetails"&gt;US Nutrition Ltd&lt;/a&gt; (Osteo Bi-flex pill peddlers) who had given them the assurance they would not be running the ad again with the claims in question. It's reassuring to see the ASA being proactive about adverts like this, demonstrating that industry self-regulation is achievable, a model that should be impressed on the woeful &lt;a href="http://jdc325.wordpress.com/2009/04/01/reform-of-the-pcc-any-ideas/"&gt;Press Complaints Commission&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Compare that advert to their overblown US website which at the top states:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Just 2 Coated Caplets a day makes Osteo Bi-Flex® Advanced Triple Strength with Joint Shield™ the easiest way to give your joints the #1 Doctor Recommended Brand.&lt;br /&gt;A potent synergistic combination of the latest in joint care science, Advanced Triple Strength formula includes Glucosamine HCl and Joint Shield™. Joint Shield™ is a proprietary blend of our Chondroitin/MSM Complex and other joint factors, such as Collagen and Hyaluronic Acid&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;with the bottom of the page which states:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I suppose a disclaimer is better than nothing. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;**Sighs**&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Over-hyped, over-played and over here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-2373184342505155091?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/2373184342505155091/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/04/osteo-bi-flex-coming-over-here.html#comment-form' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/2373184342505155091'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/2373184342505155091'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/04/osteo-bi-flex-coming-over-here.html' title='Osteo Bi-flex™ - Coming over here, endangering our weaker, indigenous quack products.....'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/Sdz9JGmQo-I/AAAAAAAAAGo/U0o488OnprQ/s72-c/pp3.gif' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-7373163115930973211</id><published>2009-03-21T13:08:00.004Z</published><updated>2009-03-21T13:39:38.177Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Prince Charles'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Duchy Originals'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MHRA'/><title type='text'>MHRA force Duchy Originals to remove claims of efficacy</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.duchyoriginals.com/post.php/News/288"&gt;Duchy Originals&lt;/a&gt;, Royal Quackpot Prince Charles' company, has &lt;a href="http://www.mhra.gov.uk/Howweregulate/Medicines/Advertisingofmedicines/Advertisinginvestigations/CON041381"&gt;been censured for putting claims on their website&lt;/a&gt; that their pretend-medicines work. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Medicines and Healthcare Products Agency (MHRA) received a complaint regarding  &lt;a href="http://www.duchyoriginals.com/hypericum_tincture.php"&gt;Duchy Herbals Echina-Relief Tincture&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.duchyoriginals.com/hypericum_tincture.php"&gt;Duchy Herbals Hyperi-Lift Tincture&lt;/a&gt;, which had been advertised on the Duchy Originals website as having been assessed for efficacy. The MHRA agreed with the complainant and said their website was was misleading. Personally, I would use a word considerably stronger than 'misleading' - how about 'bullshit'? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The two products had been registered with the MHRA as Traditional Herbal Medicines which means the MHRA do not assess evidence of efficacy. Although the report was only published this week, the action was agreed with Dodgy Originals back in January 09. Not that such a trivial thing would stop Dodgy Originals from claiming their potions work - &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/03/responding-to-criticism-alternative-way.html"&gt;I wrote during the week&lt;/a&gt; (before coming across the MHRA report) about Dodgy Originals' response to Professor Edzard Ernst's broadside on Duchy quackery. Part of the Duchy response from Andrew Baker included the following, with my comment below:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Our Duchy Herbals Echina-Relief Tincture and Duchy Herbals Hyperi-lift Tincture have both been approved and licensed as traditional herbal medicines by the UK regulatory authorities, the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Come on, 'fess up, Mr Baker. You and I both know that MHRA approval does not give any indication as to effectiveness. The MHRA never make any claims as to a [Traditional Herbal Medicine's] efficacy, just that it is safe to use and has been well manufactured and won't kill you. But you wouldn't be trying to hide that fact, would you?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think the answer to that question is now obvious. It seems that Dodgy Originals had already been censured for claiming the MHRA registration demonstrated efficacy two months before writing the above.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-7373163115930973211?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/7373163115930973211/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/03/mhra-force-duchy-originals-to-remove.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7373163115930973211'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7373163115930973211'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/03/mhra-force-duchy-originals-to-remove.html' title='MHRA force Duchy Originals to remove claims of efficacy'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-8417536015144045503</id><published>2009-03-19T19:45:00.008Z</published><updated>2009-03-20T18:09:41.333Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Professor Edzard Ernst'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Prince Charles'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Quackery'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Duchy Originals'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='society of homeopaths'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='detox'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jeremy Sherr'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gimpy'/><title type='text'>Responding to criticism - The Alternative Way</title><content type='html'>Responding to criticism is a tricky business. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's face it, nobody likes to be criticised, but a robust response addressing the points made, providing evidence to back up your position and accepting mistakes if appropriate can put you in a stronger position than you previously were.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's already very clear the Complementary and Alternative Medicine (CAM) Industry do not like criticism and do not respond well to it. The first line is often a legal chill - silence dissent by threatening libel. The list grows almost daily with &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/02/is-there-proper-media-lawyer-in-house.html"&gt;Jeni Barnett&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/09/no-more-rath-sewage.html"&gt;Matthias Rath&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2007/10/be-shamed-society-of-homeopaths.html"&gt;Society of Homeopaths&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.badscience.net/2007/06/bullies-backfire-when-bloggers-attack/"&gt;Ann Walker&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/08/another-back-cracking-quack-attack_18.html"&gt;British Chiropractic Association&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/derek-draper-dishonest-spin-quack/"&gt;Derek Draper&lt;/a&gt; using draconian British libel laws to avoid having to answer their critics. In the majority of cases, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect"&gt;The Streisand Effect&lt;/a&gt; has ensured that thousands more people were made aware of the criticism than would ever had heard about had the person not gone running to mummy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps it's a sign of the times, perhaps the Quackery (CAM) industry has realised that legal threats are counterproductive. This week had two examples of an alternative Alternative response, which were suitably hand-wavy and free of substance, much like the pills and tinctures they purvey.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Firstly, the Society of Homeopaths woke from a daze - they haven't put out a press release since last November (no doubt their members are thrilled the fees have been put to such hard work). In response to a piece in Private Eye about Jeremy Sherr, they have put all of their talents together, diluted &amp; succussed them to 30c and produced &lt;a href="http://www.homeopathy-soh.org/whats-new/press-releases.aspx"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;. For anybody who wants to know the full &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/search?q=sherr"&gt;Jeremy "I'm trying to cure AIDS with homeopathy" Sherr&lt;/a&gt; story, enjoy the ride at &lt;a href="http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/?s=sherr"&gt;Gimpy's Blog&lt;/a&gt;. He has also blogged a tremendous fisk of the SoH response to the Private Eye note &lt;a href="http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2009/03/17/society-of-homeopaths-respond-on-sherr-dishonestly/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. For the purposes of this blogpost, the salient points are that the SoH made a statement that contained untruths, disingenuous statements and weasel words - the evidence of this is clear in Gimpy's Post.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second similar statement came from business arm of our Royal Quackpot, Prince Charles' Duchy Originals in response to &lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7934568.stm"&gt;criticism from Professor Edzard Ernst&lt;/a&gt; from the Peninsula Medical School. This isn't the first time that Charlie and Eddy have had a set-to. Prof Ernst has &lt;a href="http://dcscience.net/?p=89"&gt;spoken out about the Prince's quackery&lt;/a&gt; before, which resulted in Clarence House complaining to the Vice-Chancellor, seemingly suggesting it might be suitable to sack the Prof. How very sporting, what, what?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This time, Prof Ernst has stated that the Duchy Herbals Detox Tincture which contains globe artichoke and dandelion has no efficacy in 'detoxing' (whatever the hell that word means) and is a pretty pill for the middle class worried well, who perhaps like to think that overindulgence can be cured that way. (Edit: See &lt;a href="http://cargo-cult-science.blogspot.com/2009/03/duchy-originals-tinctures-never.html"&gt;Cargo Cult Science&lt;/a&gt; for a similar takedown)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.duchyoriginals.com/post.php/News/288"&gt;The response is brilliant&lt;/a&gt; in its hand-waving, untruths, disingenuous statements and weasel words (where have I heard that before?) - ah yes, three paragraphs ago.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Following recent press articles regarding our Duchy Herbals range, we are aware that some of our customers may be seeking reassurance about the range.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our CEO, Andrew Baker, says:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;'Together with our partners, Nelsons - leaders in the field of natural medicine, we spent many years researching and developing our first range of herbal tinctures. It is a range that we are truly proud of.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, they probably are seeking 'reassurance' - they don't really like being told that they are fools easily partable with their money. Even though they are. I have spent many years researching and developing a range of Dr*T's herbal tinctures. Like the Duchy's, they don't work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Our Duchy Herbals Echina-Relief Tincture and Duchy Herbals Hyperi-lift Tincture have both been approved and licensed as traditional herbal medicines by the UK regulatory authorities, the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Come on, 'fess up, Mr Baker. You and I both know that MHRA approval does not give any indication as to effectiveness. The MHRA never make any claims as to a products efficacy, just that it is safe to use and has been well manufactured and won't kill you. But you wouldn't be trying to hide that fact, would you?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;Our Duchy Herbals Detox Tincture, which is traded as a food supplement, has been produced to the highest quality standards and within the regulatory framework of both UK and European food law&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ah, a 'food supplement' - I am confused. Why are making medicine-like claims but you sell it as a 'food supplement'? Anything to do with trying your very best to imply it is a medicine, but not making any bold claims, because it doesn't work? I have no doubt it's extremely high quality snakeoil, but it remains snakeoil. (In any case, I still &lt;a href="http://www.duchyoriginals.com/detox_tincture.php"&gt;don't understand&lt;/a&gt; what "eliminating toxins" means, or indeed "aiding digestion".)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;I do hope, therefore, that you are able to share our confidence in the compliance of the Duchy Herbals range to the very highest regulatory standards&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; Well, I do. This product is very high quality, well-made, and completely benign quackery. This sums up the Duchy's attempt to reassure their customer chumps - the criticism was to say that the product is make-believe nonsense, the response is not to deny that, but to assert that it is quality make-believe nonsense.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Outside of the statement, the Telegraph &lt;a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/4967749/Prince-Charles-is-exploiting-the-gullible-with-dodgy-detox-remedy-scientist-argues.html"&gt;has quoted&lt;/a&gt; a Duchy Originals' (or Dodgy Originals as Prof E likes to call them) spokesperson as saying:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It is not – and has never been described as – a medicine, remedy or cure for any disease.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Compare with the &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=47566662430&amp;ref=mf"&gt;Dodgy Originals Facebook&lt;/a&gt; page: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Each of our tinctures provides an alternative and natural way of treating common ailments such as colds and flu.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is place on the Duchy's website to write a comment - despite a number of &lt;a href="http://badscience.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=8171&amp;st=0&amp;sk=t&amp;sd=a&amp;start=60"&gt;Bad Sciencers&lt;/a&gt; leaving their thoughts, the Duchy has not deemed it suitable to print them. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That does not deserve a response.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With thanks to Tristan and stvb2170 on Bad Science.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-8417536015144045503?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/8417536015144045503/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/03/responding-to-criticism-alternative-way.html#comment-form' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/8417536015144045503'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/8417536015144045503'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/03/responding-to-criticism-alternative-way.html' title='Responding to criticism - The Alternative Way'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-4688389545612010280</id><published>2009-03-12T21:55:00.003Z</published><updated>2009-03-12T23:31:39.303Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Department of Health'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='complementary and natural healthcare council'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ofquack'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='CNHC'/><title type='text'>Department of Health response to CNHC letter</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SYi_vOIiDCI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/yHa0GBCbN9Q/s200/ofquack.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:right; margin:0 0 10px 10px;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 200px; height: 70px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SYi_vOIiDCI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/yHa0GBCbN9Q/s200/ofquack.jpg" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After a month of patiently waiting for a response from Ben Bradshaw to &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/02/i-wish-to-register-complaint.html"&gt;a letter I wrote&lt;/a&gt; regarding the Complementary and Natural Healthcare Council (&lt;a href="http://www.ofquack.org.uk"&gt;OfQuack&lt;/a&gt;), I received a letter from Laurent Vaic, Correspondence Officer for Department of Health. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My original letter can be found &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/02/i-wish-to-register-complaint.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. After some pleasantries, the letter begins in earnest:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In your letter you ask about the efficacy of treatments. I should explain that the CNHC does not promote the efficacy of the therapies it represents. The question of whether or not they work is for those who choose to use the therapies to decide. Professional regulation, whether statutory or in this case, voluntary, is about protecting the public, not about the efficacy of the therapies involved. Registration will mean that a practitioner has met certain entry standards (for instance, has an accredited qualification) and subscribes to a set of professional standards. In this way, the public will have the reassurance that any registered practitioner they choose meets these criteria and that practitioners would be subject to fitness to practise procedures should they behave inappropriately.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In my letter, I asked "How can the CNHC provide protection without knowledge of efficacy?". DoH is stating that it is up to the customer to decide whether the treatment works, and separates 'protecting the public' from 'treatment efficacy'. Remember that the &lt;a href="http://www.cnhc.org.uk/pages/index.cfm?page_id=84"&gt;mission of the CNHC&lt;/a&gt; is to "support the use of complementary and natural healthcare as a uniquely positive, safe and &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;effective&lt;/span&gt; experience." Effective, but with no interest in efficacy. Yes, I know, I had to read again as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Personally, I would consider 'protecting the public' to cover stopping quacks from teaching that a &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/11/be-aware-of-who-you-believe-and-what.html"&gt;urine-press placed on the neck is a suitable treatment for thyroid cancer&lt;/a&gt;, but apparently that's fine, providing they don't &lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1158786/My-marriage-destroyed-groping-therapist.html"&gt;touch you up&lt;/a&gt; at the same time. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The question I posed hasn't been answered. Back to the letter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;You also mention the minutes of a meeting of the Federal Regulatory Board of the CNHC held on 20 November 2008. Officials have contacted the CNHC following your letter to gain an understanding of the statement in the that meeting to which you refer.&lt;/blockquote&gt; And indeed, I can only refer to it, as those (assumed) same officials &lt;a href="http://www.cnhc.org.uk/pages/index.cfm?page_id=89"&gt;removed the link from the CNHC webpage&lt;/a&gt; specifically for ... em ... putting the minutes on. Furthermore, it is my understanding that the Board meets once a quarter, so we are missing two sets of minutes. A quick quote from the &lt;a href="http://www.cnhc.org.uk/pages/index.cfm?page_id=84"&gt;CNHC Missions and Values&lt;/a&gt; page:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;At all times CNHC will...lead clearly and responsibly, inspiring trust through integrity, transparency and equity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Transparency is important, but seemingly not in Quackville.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I understand from the CNHC that a board member suggested the possibility of using digital stories as a means of illustrating the positive side of complementary and alternative medicine (CAM) professional regulation. The suggestion was that such stories could utilise people who use CAMs and who recognise the value of regulation, as well as CAM practitioners. The board member concerned told the board that digital stories could be used as part of reflective practice and, as such, may have a place in ongoing professional development. It was suggested that board members might want to look at the website of Pilgrim Projects since this company specialises in 'humanising healthcare' and that Pilgrim Projects' Patient Voices programme contains a selection of the stories the company has made in a variety of contexts.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately, I don't speak bureacratese very well, so a chunk of the above paragraph left me slightly bewildered. Reflective practice, anyone? Digital stories? Do people really speak like that?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I understand that the intention was to present this advice in the context described so that the board would gain a better insight into the kind of work that has been done and to ascertain whether they thought this form of 'storytelling' was appropriate for the CNHC to use at some time in the future. I further understand that these were preliminary discussions only and that no decisions were either asked for or made. Unfortunately, the minutes of the board meeting of 20 November 2008 were placed on the CNHC's website without having been approved by the board. The CNHC recognises that potential inaccurate representations of the debate could do considerable damage to the reputation of the CNHC's Board member and that of Patient Voices, neither of which was its intention.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mistakes have been made, and so minutes will be edited in future to ensure this doesn't happen again. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The last part of the letter provides contact information for CNHC should I require further clarification of the minutes. Actually, the actual minutes would be a start, but as I said above, they have disappeared from the website.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No response on why the CNHC regards its mission as "to support the use of complementary and natural healthcare as a uniquely positive, safe and effective experience". &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What happens if someone complains? From the CNHC's own &lt;a href="http://www.cnhc.org.uk/pages/index.cfm?page_id=5"&gt;document on Complaints&lt;/a&gt;, the CNHC complaint process is not designed to be punitive, with the maximum power of the Complaints procedure being that a practitioner can be removed from the register. Bear in mind it is a &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;voluntary&lt;/span&gt; register.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've already shown above that they are not great at keeping to their own standards. In addition, they have &lt;a href="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2009/02/ofquack-is-deflated.html"&gt;already had a legal chill&lt;/a&gt; from the British Standards Institute for hijacking the 'kitemark', which they have had to remove from the CNHC website. &lt;a href="http://www.thinkhumanism.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=14&amp;t=2682&amp;hilit=ofquack&amp;start=40"&gt;Alan H at Think Humanism&lt;/a&gt; has also demonstrated a personal data conflict on the CNHC site; from the CNHC site on 'Your Privacy', it states:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;The Published Register&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;CNHC will make part of your register entry available to any enquirer as part of the published register.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The public can inspect the following information on the online register:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;    * Your full name&lt;br /&gt;    * Your profession or practice discipline&lt;br /&gt;    * Your approximate work location&lt;br /&gt;    * Your registration number&lt;br /&gt;    * Any restrictions imposed on your registration &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your home address, contact details, date of birth and other data are not available to the public.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;(My bold)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Compare that to this page, which is a search of quacktitioners whose surname is &lt;a href="http://www.cnhcregister.org.uk/search/index.cfm"&gt;Harmer&lt;/a&gt; (unfortunate name for a 'health' practitioner, but no matter):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Search by name&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You searched for harmer&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Suzanne Harmer&lt;br /&gt;44 Moneybrannon Road, Aghadowey, County Londonderry BT51 4AA Northern Ireland, United Kingdom&lt;br /&gt;Telephone: 07799 471235 Telephone: 07799 471235&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Disciplines Massage Therapy Status Registered until 17/02/2010 &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm pretty sure this isn't the last of my OfQuack squawking, although it is tempting to forget about the whole thing as a waste of time, but I *really* begrudge tax-money being used to fund what appears to be a complete waste of energy with no obvious benefits to quacks or punters.&lt;br /&gt;If anyone else can help interpret the letter (and suggest suitable responses - I'll be formulating over the next few days), please feel free to leave your thoughts and ideas below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-4688389545612010280?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/4688389545612010280/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/03/department-of-health-response-to-cnhc.html#comment-form' title='23 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/4688389545612010280'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/4688389545612010280'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/03/department-of-health-response-to-cnhc.html' title='Department of Health response to CNHC letter'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/SYi_vOIiDCI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/yHa0GBCbN9Q/s72-c/ofquack.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>23</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-7641450237189070928</id><published>2009-02-25T19:54:00.004Z</published><updated>2009-02-25T21:47:42.132Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='water fetish'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pure H2O Company'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ASA'/><title type='text'>Pure Water Fetishists</title><content type='html'>(It's probably a bit risky having a blog post with the words 'water' and 'fetishists' in the title, but site stats will be huge, eclipsed only by the disappointment of the surfers.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is it with Complementary &amp; Alternative Medicine communities and their crazed fixation on only ever coming into to contact with absolutely, scrupulously and perfectly pure water? And why does no-one ever point out that the minute they pour it into a glass, kettle or pot of dried lentils, all the effort to purify it has gone out the window?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The company I'd like to introduce you to is &lt;a href="http://www.pureh2o.co.uk/"&gt;PureH20&lt;/a&gt;. Alas, the interweb has ensured that '2' rarely gets to be subscript.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The website has a myriad of bullshit, fear-mongering, pseudoscience and amazing state-the-bleedin-obvious facts like&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Water is absolutely vital for health&lt;/blockquote&gt; I would honestly like to know if there is anyone to whom that comes as a revelation. And I mean anyone in the whole world.&lt;br /&gt;Did you know that&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;most of us have lost our proper thirst reflex by the end of our childhood?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;or that&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Bottled and tap waters contain many impurities like heavy metals and inorganic minerals that are likely to have an adverse effect on your health &lt;/blockquote&gt;So no shortage of bullshit to keep you entertained. Their purification system is definately a first in &lt;a href="http://www.pureh2o.co.uk/healthFunctions.php"&gt;chemical synthesis&lt;/a&gt; though:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Water filtered using our patented system removes all the chemicals and impurities, both organics and inorganics, to provide you with &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;one hydrogen atom and two oxygen atoms&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; (my bold)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh. I assumed they were selling water rather than HO2, who'd have thunk? As if all the sillyness wasn't enough we get:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The fifth function [of water] - that of an electronegative enhancer (something which increases the negativity of red blood cells thereby maintaining the optimum distance between each cell and could therefore reduce the risk of clotting) - was first documented by renowned chemist Thomas Riddick over 100 years ago. Subsequent studies confirm that when water was consumed in its purest form, i.e. Pure H2O, it has remarkable and unique health benefits.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Needless to say there's no pointer to the studies (and I reckon no point in discussing further).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We all know there are dangers with drinking too much water - Nutritional Therapist Barbara Nash &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/jul/23/health"&gt;settled out of court&lt;/a&gt; with the family of Dawn Page who had suffered brain damage following Nash's &lt;a href="http://www.badscience.net/2008/07/blame-everyone-but-yourselves/"&gt;"Amazing Hydration Diet"&lt;/a&gt;. (Of course the media ran this story, seemingly blissfully unaware of how their own repeated pumping  of uncritical fawning towards similar 'miracle cures' had in some part lead to the situation arising). Nash was an Alumnus of the &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/11/be-aware-of-who-you-believe-and-what.html"&gt;College of Natural Nutrition&lt;/a&gt; - avid TiD readers will remember Nash's teacher, Barbara Wren happily telling people that a urine press placed on the neck will combat thyoid cancer. She also had plenty to say about &lt;a href="http://www.futurevisions.org/cnn_water_dehydr.htm"&gt;her own fetish&lt;/a&gt; for pure water.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So how can a company like PureH20 (or is it HO2?) manage to write such drivel without a challenge? Well, some rebuff came today in the form of an Advertising Standards Authority ruling from a magazine advert.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here are a few of the claims which were 'questioned':&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Clinically proven to reduce LDL cholesterol and blood pressure...Help prevent &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;cancer&lt;/span&gt; by acting as an antioxidant...reduce stress levels...Reduce your body pollutants and can help reduce urinary infections ... Help prevent, ulcers, IBS and constipation&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Now of course, not *all* water does this, that would be silly, only PureH2O's special water does this. (Although it's not the first time the &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2008/08/how-long-does-silly-season-last_13.html"&gt;ASA slapped down&lt;/a&gt; a company for claiming water could lower cholesterol)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, let me just reiterate what they saying: Water - good against cancer, cholesterol, blood pressure, stress, and others. I'll put it to you there isn't a person with any of these problems who *isn't* taking water. And if they aren't, their disease profile is irrelevant, as they'll die of thirst.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What about if I want to drink mineral water - have you any advice or fear for me?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Water can be bad for you ... Every time you drink mineral water, a high level of minerals, such as calcium, are deposited in your body.  Every time you drink a glass of tap water, you're digesting contaminants such as salts, minerals, metals, pesticides, microbes, hormones and parasites ... Your body becomes toxically overloaded ... Over time, this build up can contribute to chronic kidney disease, heart failure or skeletal fluorosis...a toxic cocktail&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Toxic cocktail, eh? Mineral water? They're really spreading the stupid on thick.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Pure H2O Co. said the claims were supported by a thesis on Pure H2O for the British Institute of Homeopathy and Westbrook University, USA, carried out as a PhD by Dr Purkait from the University of Surrey. I suppose if anyone knows about pure uncontaminated water, a homeopath would. Sensibly, the ASA noted:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;[the claims were] from a manufacturer of a water purification system whose promotional literature also appeared in the thesis, and considered it was therefore not sufficiently impartial&lt;/blockquote&gt;Cheap hucksterism and nothing more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As usual the ASA has done a sterling job of smacking down the quacks. As always, my irk is that they have no power and little influence but to continue playing whack-a-mole (whack-a-quack?) with the snakeoil sellers. Not quite selling snow to eskimos, but water to idiots.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:78%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://layscience.net/bpsdb"&gt;BPSDB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/96088503557170302-7641450237189070928?l=thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/feeds/7641450237189070928/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/02/pure-water-fetishists.html#comment-form' title='14 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7641450237189070928'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/96088503557170302/posts/default/7641450237189070928'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/02/pure-water-fetishists.html' title='Pure Water Fetishists'/><author><name>Dr* T</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03477835188537933171</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XSCXYE5_zNo/S5AY5BwRJsI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ti61JRkRN8E/S220/avatar17.JPG'/></author><thr:total>14</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-96088503557170302.post-8919512789191872789</id><published>2009-02-09T19:57:00.008Z</published><updated>2010-02-17T09:21:56.367Z</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bad Science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='artrosilium'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ASA'/><title type='text'>Artrosilium / Intramed / Windsor duff products laugh at the ASA once more.</title><content type='html'>*sigh*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was almost an inevitability. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unproven medicine seller Intramed Ltd (sometimes registered in &lt;a href="http://www.who.is/whois-uk/ip-address/healthandharmonydirect.co.uk/" target="_blank"&gt;Switzerland&lt;/a&gt;, sometimes in &lt;a href="http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/Public/TF_ADJ_44433.htm" target="_blank"&gt;Guernsey&lt;/a&gt; sometimes &lt;a href="http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/Public/TF_ADJ_45739.htm" target="_blank"&gt;Colchester, UK&lt;/a&gt;) has, yet again, been pulled up by the Advertising Standards Authority for &lt;a href="http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/Public/TF_ADJ_45739.htm" target="_blank"&gt;making silly claims&lt;/a&gt; about its untested, proof-free, 'natural' arthritis reliever and indeed reverser.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Artrosilium-associated quackery has been one of the biggest draws to this site from Google, so there is no shortage of people looking for it - I've blogged it a &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/search?q=artrosilium" target="_blank"&gt;few times before&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, if you're selling evidence-free quack medicines, there is no need to limit it to one ailment - the most recent piece of marketing nonsense to come from Intramed insisted that Artrosilium was also taken for:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Pains, inflammations, skin problems, burns, sunburns, sinus, nasal congestion, prostate, rashes, canker sores, restore your nails' youthful appearance and to stop hair loss.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tosh.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Once again (and for the &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;5th time in 12 months&lt;/span&gt;) Intramed were slapped by the ASA. Intramed said they wouldn't do it again, honest guv.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seeing as I'm in the mood for &lt;a href="http://thinking-is-dangerous.blogspot.com/2009/02/i-wish-to-register-complaint.html" target="_blank"&gt;writing complaining letters&lt;/a&gt;, (and given the ASA can't actually *do* anything about Intramed) I've decided to complain to the Guernsey Authorities and see what happens - possibly not much, but there's something in my head saying that this is not 'right' - a company should not be allowed to continually flout the advertising guidelines regarding a 'medicinal' produc
