However, I thought it was time to dust it down and see if it still works.
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I've been in discussion with the MHRA - the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency regarding yet another natural wonderdrug for arthritis.
Let me introduce you to Artrosilium. It is one in a very long line of dodgy products aimed at the 5 million or so Britons who have arthitis or similar diseases. Your humble blogger is sadly included in that statistic.
There is no cure for arthritis and so depending on the severity (very mild in my case) sufferers adhere to an often complicated regime of pain management, that can be seemingly affected by small changes in diet, the weather, possibly even aliens.
(This last one, incidentally, is proof of someone's rule - I'll call it Dr* T's Second Rule until someone corrects me - whereby regardless of what you imagine, someone on the net has already written about it. Perhaps I have a limited imagination).
Anyway, Artrosilium is being sold via a .co.uk website, which to me indicates a UK company, and I was a) not convinced that the product had any efficacy, and b) concerned that the website made unsubstantiated claims with no real proof or indeed the direction to find the proof.
So, I started by sending a letter to the MHRA outlining my concerns. Initially, they told me it was a Guernsey based company and not under MHRA control, although they would inform the authorities.
Since I started my conversation with MHRA regarding Artsosilium, the website undertook an overhaul. Previously it had claims of being "The Proven Natural Remedy for Arthritis", which has now become "Guaranteed Arthritis Relief". A subtle change from remedying the arthritis itself, to remedying the pain from arthritis. Baby steps no less. However even the 'alleviation of pain' is not proven or backed up anywhere on the site.
The claims that
"Although Artrosilium was initially developed to treat arthritis, more and more customers are reporting that it relieves other ailments such as skin irritation, burns, sunburn, insect bites, herpes and even prostate problems – so this really could be a “miracle cure”.have also been removed.
Nonetheless, I persevered with MHRA to find out what they would do about a company advertising pain relief for Arthritis on a co.uk website using a gel that contains silica (without going into the details of how this will be transported to the desired area).
This was their reply:
The UK address I identified at the beginning of my investigation turned out to be that of a web-designer working on behalf of a Swiss Company. It therefore seems that the companies associated with artrosilium are not based in the UK which makes enforcement of UK medicines legislation almost impossible. However, I have written to the regulatory authorities in both Guernsey and Switzerland to ask them to investigate whether the product and its advertising comply with any relevant legislation. Realistically, in the absence of a UK presence for the company placing Artrosilium on the market I do not think there is any further action I can take.
I am sorry to send you what will seem a very disappointing reply.
Now, the updated website has indeed changed its address from Guernsey to Switzerland but is still linking to books about nonsense like:
How to get rid of Arthritis and Rheumatism by Robert Dehin
which is also a .co.uk website.
We have a framework in this country for regulating medicines and healthcare products. I want to know that if I buy something medicinal in UK, it has been through the relevant tests for efficacy, safety etc. and I can rely on bodies like MHRA to ensure that rogue traders are dealt with efficiently.
However, it appears that this is not the case. In my mind, anyone selling a product on a .co.uk website should come fully under the authority of the UK and its agents.
The MHRA has admitted that does not happen. I think that is dangerous - next stop, parliament.
EDIT (30/5/08): I'm getting there, things are starting to move. In the mean time, it turns out that the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) has already pulled ARTROSILIUM up for talking rubbish, making nonsense claims and not backing anything up. This product really is dubious - yet this company is making money from vulnerable people.
EDIT (15/9/08): IntraMed have once again been censured by the ASA for their product Ginkgo Biloba. Same old same old.





24 comments:
bravo, what a great investigation.
Aye, excellent work indeed!
It is possible to control and even heal arthritis through proper diet. The main problem is that our inflammatory systems are compromised through our modern Western diet. This balance can be restored and with it virtually all inflammatory disease.
Tonie
Hi Tonie,
Thanks for your comment.
Interesting point, although I see you are selling pills on the site you linked to. You state:
"The good news is that the condition [Rheumatoid arthritis] can be alleviated by correcting our diet, exercise and proper weight management"
So you've committed the same crime as above - conflating (accidentally or otherwise) disease with the pain associated with the disease.
Also you use arthritis to only mean rheumatoid arthritis, when in fact osteoarthritis is a completely different disease.
You are welcome to comment, to please don't link to your pill sales - it's not quite in keeping with the site!
Thanks
T
Having just received a free sample and offer to commit a significant amount of money I was in aghast to see the signature in the guarantee of Peter Marshall. If my memory serves correct is this not the same person who ran a catalogue business known as Marshall's. Intersting the address is marketed to read St Lukes House. Sorry readers just suspicious.
Hi Anonymous,
I'd be really interested in seeing the packaging and marketing etc. Any way you could scan it in or anything?
Cheers
T
I have had pain in my wrist the past few days. This was brought on by using one of those hand "strenthening" gyroscope excercise balls. I am only 30 and am not atheritic (though I do have some sort of general joint problem). I am writing because a few minutes after applying some of this smelly gel to my wrist, the pain actually subsided. That was 4 or 5 hours ago and as yet it has not returned. I've tried it on a few other aches and pains and have not had the same effect. I am in no way endorsing this product but all the same felt I should write.
Thanks Michael. Artrosilium contains Meadowsweet which contains the precursors to aspirin, so it may well be providing some temporary pain relief. The problem is, they do not have a license to sell it in the UK because of this! If you want to put unregulated, untested, unqualified products on your skin, that's up to you!
T
Unable to scan at the moment. there has been a significant improvment to a swelling on the back of the hand. I.e the imflammation has reduced. However we believe that like a suntan if you look good you feel good. What is frightening is the pushy sales after two days to ask you to purchase. hey com'on If the product is so good then sales surely will roll in to their offices. Slick advertising, pressure sales, and a product without an index under UK medical standards.
Thanks for your site, I was about to waste some hard earned cash on "Artrosilium" when I caught sight of your comments, while looking where & how to buy the product. You made me come to my senses.
Mr Gullible
Should have said previously, the Artrosilium.co.uk has ow been closed down following (I presume) an investigation by the MHRA, prompted by this site.
Interesting! Having seen a full page advert in Saga Magazine (Current issue), I was about to send for the free sample. Looked to see prices and for further info first. The Artrosilium web site is closed down, and I'm not tempted to go further after the info I've read here. Thanks!
Isn't glucosomine (1,500 mg a day) the best for osteoarthritis? It's helped me, and I get it free on prescription - I live in Wales.
Hi Marg,
Thanks for the comments - I'll maybe look up the Saga magazine!
With regards to glucosamine, neither NICE nor NHS recommend glucosamine for care and management of osteoarthritis - I've written a blurb about that here.
Hopefully someday we'll be buy something with actual clinical evidence of combatting osteoarthtritis rather than the myriad products which claim to do something with little or no proof.
T
My husband and I were given a small sample of Artrosilium by our doctor who had used it as a last resort on another of her patients who had had surgery etc for a damaged shoulder and was suffering a lot of pain. It was the only product out of a long list of medications that gave relief.
We have used it in our family and have all gained releif for whatever type of pain we have used it for. Our doctor hasn't bought any yet and neither have we as we can't find the appropriate web site either. However we do have an Australian address to post away for (albeit a PO Box) so I am going to write and see what information I can get and an order form and price list. It will be interesting.
My mum used it after her physiotherapist told her to try it and did get relief from arthritis.
I have been using it for a few weeks now on the knuckle in my big toe (i broke it about 10 years ago and it now has arthritis in it) and the redness has reduced and it isn't as swollen. Also been rubbing into my fingernails which were extremely soft and peeled. They appear to be strengthening up and not delaminating like they use to. Julie
http://www.healthandharmonydirect.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=12
seems this site is selling the product to UK people only. I'm seeking a street address in australia for this Peter Marshall guy, anyone know of a street address for queensland?
http://www.health-emporium.co.uk/body_systems_artrosilium.asp
the Uk is the place where they are flogging artrosilium they just keep changing and creating websites.
Hi Anonymous,
Health & Harmony is owned by the same company as is trying to peddle Artrosilium - more on that on this blogpost
T
I suffer painful arthritis as a result of an accident, I have tried it and it does give relief...stop using it and the pain returns...So who do you believe...the blogger or the person who can now walk to the shops.
Anonymous AKA Artrosilium Sales Manager :o)
I Have been using artrosilium for six week now and i have to say it works for me my knee has been great i can now enjoy walking
i used a sample of this gel sent to me. It worked. I have dreadful sickle-cell anaemia pains sometimes. I rubbed it on my mothers toes - she has diabetes and it worked. Some time later more communications arrived through my door - £97 for a tube. I was willing to pay it. BUT another came asking £25 for two tubes of the large size. I wrote off straight away with my cheque. It was cashed but until today I have not received the product. Scammed.
Thanks for your Investigation....the product is now being marketed in New Zealand ...all the same details, including Peter Marshall. I was checking the net for further information, having recieved the free sample and order form,along with the Price!( NZ$254 for 6 months supply-a big initial outlay)! I will keep trying the sample...but this is dodgy marketing..if the product is really good why not make it available by normal retail outlets?
I have used Artrosilium now for a period of about 6 months. I was unable to sleep on my right side because of the pain extending down from my right knee into the right side of my shin.I do have some arthritis in my knees and I suffer from joint pain in other parts of my body that are not caused by arthritis. Using Artro silium on my knee has taken away the pain and enabled me to sleep on that side. I tried it on my tennis elbow and it had no effect. I think it is important to remember that some things work for some people and some things work in certain parts of the body and not in others. When my mother bought me this Artrosilium I told her to stop wasting her money, as I was quite sceptical about these claims. However, I am now most grateful to her. I've tried glucosamine and it did not help at all. My advice is to give it a go if you haven't found anything else that works. I'm going to get another tube now. The large tube, though expensive, has lasted me this long. Good luck!
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